{"conversationCode":"164-061","tapeNumber":164,"conversationNumber":61,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-164-061","startDateTime":"1973-04-30T22:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-04-30T22:51:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Apr-1973","startTime":"6:50 PM","endDate":"30-Apr-1973","endTime":"6:51 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Bull, Stephen B.;","description":"On April 30, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Stephen B. Bull talked on the telephone at Camp David from 6:50 pm to 6:51 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 164-061 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 164-61\n\nDate: April 30, 1973\nTime: 6:50 pm - 6:51 pm\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nThe President talked with Stephen B. Bull.\n\n     President’s schedule\n           -Barber","filename":["164-061.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Bull, Stephen B."],"prevCode":"164-060","nextCode":"165-001","transcript":[{"start":0.25,"end":0.79,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":0.89,"end":1.55,"text":"Mr. Bowles."},{"start":1.57,"end":2.35,"text":"Yes, sir, it's Steve Bowles."},{"start":2.38,"end":7.73,"text":"Have the barber at 7 o'clock tell him I just can have just a 15-minute touch-up."},{"start":7.75,"end":8.27,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":8.29,"end":8.61,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":9.25,"end":9.91,"text":"Thank you, sir."},{"start":12.64,"end":12.84,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted Stephen B. Bull to coordinate his personal schedule at Camp David. He instructed Bull to arrange a 15-minute haircut with the barber for 7:00 pm. This brief exchange served solely to manage the President's immediate administrative and grooming requirements.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Camp David","Personal grooming","Stephen B. Bull"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:24:22.183Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","camp-david","personal-grooming","stephen-b-bull"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"164-061.mp3","bytes":475136,"durationSec":14.75,"bitrate":257759,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:04.103Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/164-061.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/164-061","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/164/conversation-164-061","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}