{"conversationCode":"165-034","tapeNumber":165,"conversationNumber":34,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-165-034","startDateTime":"1973-05-13T12:56:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-13T14:02:00.000Z","startDate":"13-May-1973","startTime":"8:56 AM","endDate":"13-May-1973","endTime":"10:02 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David operator;","description":"On May 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 8:56 am and 10:02 am. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 165-034 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDST","recordingDevice":"Camp David Study Table","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.5","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part V","chronReleaseDate":"21-Aug-2013","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 165-34\n\f                                             -37-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                           Conversation No. 165-42 (cont’d)\n\nDate: May 13, 1973\nTime: Unknown between 8:56 am and 10:02 am\nLocation: Camp David Study Table\n\nPresident talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n     Telephone call to Ronald L. Ziegler","filename":["165-034.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David operator"],"prevCode":"165-033","nextCode":"165-035","transcript":[{"start":2.58,"end":4.47,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the Camp David operator to initiate a follow-up telephone call to Press Secretary Ronald L. Ziegler. The brief interaction served as a logistical step to facilitate direct communication with his senior staff member. No substantive policy discussions occurred during this exchange with the operator.","topics":["Ronald L. Ziegler","Presidential communications","White House staff","Logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:27:36.642Z"},"topicSlugs":["ronald-l-ziegler","presidential-communications","white-house-staff","logistics"],"audioDurationSec":12,"audioFiles":[{"file":"165-034.mp3","bytes":372736,"durationSec":11.52,"bitrate":258844,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:20:02.713Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:58.309Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/165-034.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/165-034","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/165/conversation-165-034","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}