{"conversationCode":"167-014","tapeNumber":167,"conversationNumber":14,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-167-014","startDateTime":"1973-05-20T18:51:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-05-20T18:53:00.000Z","startDate":"20-May-1973","startTime":"2:51 PM","endDate":"20-May-1973","endTime":"2:53 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Cox, Tricia Nixon;","description":"On May 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone at Camp David from 2:51 pm to 2:53 pm. 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(“Bebe”) Rebozo\n            -Schedule\n\n       Prisoners of War [POWs] reception\n             -Location of First Family\n                   -Balcony\n\n[End segment reviewed under deed of gift]\n*****************************************************************","filename":["167-014.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Cox, Tricia Nixon"],"prevCode":"167-013","nextCode":"167-015","transcript":[{"start":2,"end":3.25,"text":"Daddy?"},{"start":3.27,"end":3.71,"text":"Hi, Tricia."},{"start":3.77,"end":4.63,"text":"How's things going?"},{"start":5.35,"end":5.87,"text":"Fine."},{"start":5.89,"end":6.83,"text":"How are things at Camp David?"},{"start":6.89,"end":7.19,"text":"Fine."},{"start":7.23,"end":9.1,"text":"It's a little foggy here, but otherwise fine."},{"start":9.12,"end":9.76,"text":"Guess what?"},{"start":9.78,"end":10.56,"text":"It's a little foggy here."},{"start":20.69,"end":23.16,"text":"We had a great reception at Norfolk, Virginia."},{"start":23.24,"end":23.72,"text":"Mama told me."},{"start":23.74,"end":25.42,"text":"It just sounded great, Daddy."},{"start":25.62,"end":26.76,"text":"It really did."},{"start":26.78,"end":28.18,"text":"20,000 pounds of people came out."},{"start":28.2,"end":28.36,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":28.39,"end":28.48,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":38.67,"end":40.24,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":40.26,"end":44.28,"text":"And, well, the whole thing is such a sham, you know."},{"start":44.3,"end":48.33,"text":"You've got to put it into proper perspective."},{"start":48.35,"end":49.49,"text":"Good Lord, it's a nothing thing."},{"start":50.09,"end":52.98,"text":"It's bugging, you know, which is really nothing."},{"start":53.44,"end":54.9,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":54.92,"end":59.69,"text":"And, I don't know, it's just being played as if it's something else."},{"start":59.87,"end":62.49,"text":"And the senators are the most ridiculous looking thing."},{"start":62.51,"end":65.87,"text":"They're all up there in their new toupees and their new ties."},{"start":66.8,"end":67.42,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":72.09,"end":72.51,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":72.53,"end":73.97,"text":"Sort of having a little day in the sun."},{"start":73.99,"end":74.17,"text":"Right."},{"start":84.48,"end":85.14,"text":"I'm all right."},{"start":85.16,"end":85.8,"text":"That's good."},{"start":85.82,"end":86.3,"text":"Is B.B."},{"start":86.32,"end":86.94,"text":"up there, too?"},{"start":86.96,"end":87.66,"text":"He's here, right."},{"start":87.86,"end":88.34,"text":"Good."},{"start":88.36,"end":89.6,"text":"I hope you get out into the pool."},{"start":89.62,"end":93.65,"text":"Yeah, we're going to take a pool, and then we're going to have an early dinner and go back."},{"start":93.67,"end":93.85,"text":"Good."},{"start":93.87,"end":93.99,"text":"Good."},{"start":94.01,"end":94.73,"text":"Okay, sweetie."},{"start":94.75,"end":95.99,"text":"We can't wait to see you."},{"start":96.01,"end":97.95,"text":"And, Daddy, the POW party just sounds marvelous."},{"start":97.97,"end":98.71,"text":"It's going to be great."},{"start":98.85,"end":100.37,"text":"I think it's going to be great."},{"start":100.39,"end":101.88,"text":"Mama says you haven't had one."},{"start":102.34,"end":103.81,"text":"regret yet."},{"start":103.95,"end":104.99,"text":"I don't think so."},{"start":105.01,"end":107.42,"text":"So all of us are probably going to have to watch from the balcony."},{"start":107.44,"end":107.9,"text":"That's great."},{"start":108.36,"end":109.14,"text":"We should be great."},{"start":109.33,"end":110.71,"text":"Okay, honey."},{"start":110.73,"end":111.39,"text":"That'd be terrific."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his daughter, Tricia Nixon Cox, engage in a brief personal check-in while the President is staying at Camp David. The conversation touches upon the President's recent positive reception in Norfolk, Virginia, and the upcoming Prisoners of War reception. 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