Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 167 › Conversation 167-018

Nixon phone call with Eisenhower on Watergate scandal and Martha Mitchell

Sunday, May 20, 1973 · 3:13 PM–3:15 PM ET · Camp David Study Table · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie NixonConversation167-018 on Tape 167StartSunday, May 20, 1973 at 3:13 PMEndSunday, May 20, 1973 at 3:15 PMRecording deviceCamp David Study TableSourceNixon Library record for 167-018 ↗

President Nixon and his daughter, Julie Nixon Eisenhower, held a brief telephone conversation to discuss his recent, well-received public appearance in Norfolk, Virginia. Their dialogue quickly shifted to the political climate, where they addressed the ongoing Watergate crisis and the erratic public behavior of Martha Mitchell. Julie encouraged her father to remain resolute in his political survival, and the President affirmed his determination to overcome the scandal for the sake of the country and the world.

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Hello.
Daddy?
I just want to say hello to you.
Hi, how are you?
How's everything?
Are you at Phoenix?
I thought you should know we had a great reception in Norfolk.
That's what Mommy said.
She said there were 20,000 people?
Yeah, well, maybe 10, maybe 20.
It was a hell of a crowd.
Well, anyway, she said it was fantastic.
But there was an unfriendly face in the place.
I know.
Isn't that great?
Right, right.
And, uh, about the Watergate.
Right, right.
Because I thought that pretty put things in perspective.
Yeah, the Red Blake article.
Yeah.
That was a brilliant article, yeah.
How is Bebe?
Is he fine?
He's just fine, sweetie.
Yeah, did you see Bob last night?
The night before, I mean?
About Aplanol?
No, no, no, we didn't see him.
No.
Well, um, I, yeah, I think we really gotta fight this thing through, Daddy.
Don't you agree?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Is there any way that we can make it known that Mrs. Mitchell's nuts?
I don't know.
She is, though.
She's brought everything out of her mind.
Nothing we can do.
But that's just a part of it, sweetie.
And, you know, there are going to be more crap flying around.
But just remember, we're going to survive it, and we're going to beat them.
Yeah, that's the way to look at it.
Because we've got to do it for the country.
We've got to do it for the world.
That's what's involved.
I agree.
I couldn't agree more.
Right.
Mommy was very, very happy about the reception.
Well, it was great.
Yeah.
It was great.
Well, you have a good time there, and give them all my love.
I will, and you're really sweet to call.
Okay, sweetie.
Thanks.
Bye.

On May 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone at Camp David from 3:13 pm to 3:15 pm. The Camp David Study Table taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 167-018 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 167-18

Date: May 20, 1973
Time: 3:13pm -3:15 pm
Location: Camp David Study Table

The President talked with Julie Nixon Eisenhower.

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                       NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM

                                                                           Conversation No. 167-18 (cont’d)

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       President’s visit to Norfolk, Virginia, May 19
             -Reception
             -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon

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       Charles G. (“Bebe”) Rebozo

       Robert Abplanalp

       Watergate
            -Martha Mitchell
            -Impact

       President’s visit to Norfolk, Virginia, May 19
             -Reception
             -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon

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                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM
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  • 167-019 3:15 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:15 pm and 3:30 pm.
  • 167-020 3:30 PM · 12 sec — Camp David operator and President Richard M. Nixon talked on the telephone at Camp David at 3:30 pm.
  • 167-021 3:30 PM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:30 pm and 3:34 pm.
  • 167-022 3:34 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Hobart D. Lewis talked on the telephone at Camp David from 3:34 pm to 3:35 pm.

Conversation 167-018, May 20, 1973. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/167-018 (accessed October 12, 2026).