{"conversationCode":"169-028","tapeNumber":169,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-169-028","startDateTime":"1973-06-20T19:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1973-06-20T19:31:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Jun-1973","startTime":"3:28 PM","endDate":"20-Jun-1973","endTime":"3:31 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Rebozo, Charles G. (\"Bebe\");","description":"On June 20, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles G. (\"Bebe\") Rebozo talked on the telephone at Camp David from 3:28 pm to 3:31 pm. 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Brezhnev’s visit\n          -Camp David\n          -Negotiations\n          -Press coverage\n                 -Watergate\n\n     Watergate\n          -Howard Hughes contribution\n               -“Calhoun” [nickname of unknown person] [attorney]\n               -Conversation with Rebozo\n               -Package from Rebozo\n\f                                              -19-\n\n                     NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n                                                             Conversation No. 169-28 (cont’d)\n\n                         -Attorney\n                    -Meeting with Kenneth Gemmill, June 21, 1973\n\nThe President conferred with an unknown person at an unknown time.\n\n[Begin conferral]\n\n     Entrance\n\n[End conferral]\n\n     Watergate\n          -“Calhoun”\n               -Rebozo’s attempts to locate\n          -Contribution\n          -Gemmill’s views concerning legal culpability\n\n     President schedule\n           -California\n           -Meeting with Rebozo\n           -Jack [Last name unknown] or Pete [Last name unknown]","filename":["169-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. 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Well, that's good."},{"start":124.36,"end":128.62,"text":"Turned out we had just a little bit more there than I had supposed to have."},{"start":128.64,"end":128.82,"text":"Really?"},{"start":128.9,"end":129.59,"text":"One extra one."},{"start":130.07,"end":130.17,"text":"Yeah?"},{"start":130.23,"end":130.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":131.06,"end":133.09,"text":"Very good."},{"start":133.11,"end":134.19,"text":"Well, that's good."},{"start":134.21,"end":135.39,"text":"Yeah, I think it's going to be fine."},{"start":135.65,"end":135.97,"text":"Fine."},{"start":135.99,"end":136.65,"text":"Well, yeah."},{"start":136.67,"end":136.91,"text":"Okay."},{"start":136.93,"end":139.28,"text":"Well, we'll see you in California Wednesday, huh?"},{"start":139.96,"end":141.04,"text":"All right."},{"start":141.06,"end":144.02,"text":"See you in California."},{"start":144.04,"end":144.2,"text":"Okay."},{"start":144.22,"end":145.14,"text":"When are you?"},{"start":145.16,"end":146.41,"text":"Tuesday, I think."},{"start":147.73,"end":148.33,"text":"Perhaps Tuesday."},{"start":148.39,"end":150.17,"text":"Tuesday the 26th?"},{"start":150.83,"end":150.97,"text":"Mm-hmm."},{"start":150.99,"end":151.43,"text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":151.45,"end":151.59,"text":"Good."},{"start":151.73,"end":155.72,"text":"I'll be in touch with Jack."},{"start":155.76,"end":156.88,"text":"Good."},{"start":156.9,"end":157.06,"text":"Good."},{"start":157.7,"end":158.16,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":158.18,"end":158.46,"text":"All right."},{"start":158.48,"end":159.74,"text":"Good to talk to you."},{"start":159.76,"end":159.9,"text":"Bye."},{"start":159.92,"end":160.02,"text":"Okay."},{"start":160.04,"end":160.14,"text":"Bye."},{"start":160.87,"end":161,"text":"Thanks."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his close associate Bebe Rebozo discuss the ongoing press coverage of Leonid Brezhnev’s visit to Camp David, noting that it successfully diverted media attention away from the Watergate scandal. 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