Nixon phone call with Haldeman on Lawrence F. O'Brien and Tax investigation

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Yeah.

So, uh, Henry will be here at 6 now, right?

Yeah.

Uh, that means at Camp David.

He'll be, yeah, he gets in at, uh, Andrews at 5.

5, well then he'll be here a little sooner than 6.

Well, by the time he unloads and, yeah.

Okay.

Maxson gets up there, it'll be, by the time he can see you, it's going to be 6.

Fine.

So, I figured you'd want to do it, go ahead then.

So yeah, so to get done on the Rogers thing, should we make it?

We're having him at 7.

Oh, you moved it up a half hour already.

We'll have him come at 7 and figure dinner at about 7.15.

Is that fine?

Unless you want it fine.

We can adjust that any way you want.

Rogers at 7 is fine.

Well, it's good to have him just a little sooner than 7.30 that way, because we'll all be, well, Henry's going to be tired.

Yeah.

And we'll get there, get done, and it's good for me to get out so I can get

back to the so rogers was maneuvering to come up in the chopper with henry and and so it was important for henry to come right from andrews which is the way we're getting him up early which we wanted to do so he could see you before bill got here yeah that works out fine so we've gotten another you know henry's coming from andrews and then bill's coming up in a separate chopper later yeah but make it seven o'clock well that's not much time lag anyway no and

i'd give you well that's plenty of time with henry and and then a good dinner underway and over a little earlier all right that's fine i got the report on the uh you know o'brien john said he'd forgotten to tell me about it and i'd forgotten to ask him this morning but uh

Brian showed up yesterday as instructed with his son and with all their records, and he asked that his case be postponed until after the election, and they declined.

They said no, that they had to pursue it right away.

Sure, like postponing the... Yeah, 7-0-1.

And he's quite shook up about the whole thing.

A cursory examination of what he has left with him would indicate that if everything that he says is true, he is...

But he's left all the records there, and they're starting through them.

And our guy, Roger Barth, will be going through them also.

So we've got his files.

And now we can do some exploring.

But it looks as if you say it's on the basis of what he says, if what he says is true.

But this is true of almost anybody, you know, when they come in.

Obviously, he's not going to come in and say, I've not paid my taxes.

Yeah.

he's going to say i have it all covered at least we've got a guy working on it like barth but not not going to give it a cursory examination that's right it'll be very thoroughly examined and on a on the merits and also on the for the political interest of anything else that might be in this that was the other thing we wanted yeah rummaging through the record they're going through his uh also that uh public relations fellow napalitan right and uh

and his associate's business, right?

Yeah.

And they've indicated it's in connection with the Hughes investigation, is that right?

Right.

Perfectly.

It came up as a very major payment under their investigation of Hughes.

Obviously, there's no political motivation in it at all.

Routine, right?

The Hughes thing was independent of any... Sure, sure.

And it's been underway for some time.

I mean, you know, it's a routine departmental charge.

And...

Boy, that's a lot of nerve to say that for the afterlife to be alive.

Well, you'd be very worried.

Don't worry, we have to do it.

He is.

He's very public.

You may figure he's clean, you know, and so forth.

Yeah, but you still worry.

Even if your guy, you know, even if he's clean, well, also, he just doesn't know what, uh, what he may have something in there that, uh, that he may think we know something we don't.

That's right.

Well, and he, it's probable that, you know, hardly anybody is really clean.

I know.

Because you always, you have to look at something.

Well, and they say things.

You have to look at things in the, how are you going to do your best to live?

Sure, actually, sure.

You're never sure you've done it all right or that there isn't something in there that might be, you know, negative in some way.

The way to handle this is obviously if anything comes out on him, say no.

And you've got a beautiful thing if he starts to beg about it.

Oh, no, this is with regard to investigation of Hughes, who paid him.

who paid him $190,000.

Yep.

Right?

That's right.

And you got that out there for him to figure out what to do with.

And I put up, paid him, that paid his son so much.

Put them both in.

Don't fart around on that.

Yep.

Leave Humphrey's son out, but put him in.

Yep.

Good deal.

Okay.

Nixon phone call with Haldeman on Lawrence F. O'Brien and Tax investigation

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