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Conversation 186-005

TapeTape 186StartFriday, February 2, 1973 at 3:43 PMEndFriday, February 2, 1973 at 8:50 PMParticipantsKissinger, Henry A.;  Camp David Operator;  Howe, Jonathan T. (Cmdr.)Recording deviceCamp David Study Desk
AudioNARA Description

On February 2, 1973, Henry A. Kissinger, Camp David operator, and Cmdr. Jonathan T. Howe talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm. The Camp David Study Desk taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 186-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 186-5
Date: February 2, 1973
Time: Unknown between 3:43 pm and 8:50 pm
Location: Camp David Study Desk
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                                      Tape Subject Log
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                                                               Conversation No. 186-5 (cont’d)




Henry A. Kissinger talked with the Camp David operator.

[See Conversation No. 241-3]

       Request for a call to Brig. Gen. Brent G. Scowcroft

Kissinger talked with the Camp David operator.

       Call to Scowcroft
               -Status

Kissinger talked with Cmdr. Jonathan T. Howe.

       Kissinger’s schedule
              -Trip to People’s Republic of China [PRC], February 15-19, 1973
                      -Announcement
                             -Robert F. Ingersoll
                             -Ellsworth F. Bunker
                             -Phillip C. Habib
                             -Instructions from Kissinger
                                     -Vietnam settlement
                             -South Korea, Japan, France
                             -West Germany
                                     -Egon Bahr
                             -Unknown person
                             -Great Britain
                             -Laos
                                     -G. McMurtrie Godley

                                            -Souvanna Phouma
                                            -Emory C. Swank
                             -“Peace in Aisi”
                             -Taiwan, Republic of China
                             -Departure
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Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Mr. Kissinger, can you get me General Scowcroft urgently?
Thank you, sir.
Yes, please.
How are we doing on that call?
It's very urgent, because I'm holding up the whole party.
We're getting him now, sir.
He's not in his residence.
We're trying to tailor a house.
Well, never mind.
See whether Commander Howe is in my office.
Fine.
Yes, sir.
How are we doing?
All right, I'm talking to his office now.
Hello?
Yes, sir.
John, I suppose we haven't informed anybody about our announcement tomorrow.
You mean other countries?
Yes.
No, I don't believe so.
God damn it, somebody has to think of these things.
Now, will you do a back channel to Ingersoll, to Bunker, to Habib?
Right.
And tell them to tell their principals at what time we're going to make this announcement, tip them the text, and say it's a regular consultation in the aftermath of the Vietnam settlement.
Right.
And will you get that out this evening?
Yes, sir, certainly.
Now, wait a minute now.
Who else would we do?
Korea?
Japan?
You might let the French know.
All right.
What about the Germans?
Oh, isn't that crucial?
Yeah, do a back channel to Bauer.
Right.
And have you done your luncheon test?
Yeah.
Okay, and I suppose you've done the British.
Yeah.
All right, sir.
I think that takes care of it.
Yes.
Oh, you might let Godley tell Suvana and Swank.
All right.
Okay?
Yes, sir.
But it should be closely held, and that it's done in the spirit of contributing to peace in Asia.
Right.
Oh, and we have to tell Taiwan, call the Chinese.
Wait, I've got to go with you.
Yes.
Okay, wait a minute.
They're all leaving.
All right, I'll check with you when I get in.
Yes, sir.
Bye.
Bye.
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