{"conversationCode":"188-002","tapeNumber":188,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-188-002","startDateTime":"1972-05-18T21:30:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-18T21:34:00.000Z","startDate":"18-May-1972","startTime":"5:30 PM","endDate":"18-May-1972","endTime":"5:34 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On May 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 5:30 pm to 5:34 pm. 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(\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"188-001","nextCode":"188-003","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":0.39,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":2.45,"end":6.9,"text":"Well, anything, uh, late news you know about?"},{"start":6.92,"end":10.59,"text":"I talked to Walter and, uh, yeah."},{"start":12.41,"end":13.03,"text":"Is it all right?"},{"start":13.05,"end":20.92,"text":"I mean, is he, he's not okay, or how do we do it?"},{"start":20.96,"end":23,"text":"He's been a very old friend."},{"start":29.04,"end":32.42,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":35.37,"end":36.09,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":37.49,"end":51.22,"text":"Well, how do we then, how do we say that we're taking him because he's from Russia or anything?"},{"start":51.32,"end":56.05,"text":"And, uh, yeah."},{"start":56.07,"end":58.47,"text":"That's a part of my party."},{"start":58.49,"end":58.59,"text":"Fine."},{"start":66.67,"end":73.6,"text":"and I wanted to go along and do, because, you know, for counsel and so forth."},{"start":73.62,"end":77.34,"text":"Good, good, good, good, good."},{"start":77.36,"end":82.33,"text":"And he also is an anti-Dennis, which I'm pretty sure he's going to do."},{"start":82.35,"end":95.68,"text":"The second point is that, talking to him about the other thing, my feeling is now that I will follow your plan and believe here about, you know, 9 o'clock."},{"start":96.37,"end":98.69,"text":"How would that be?"},{"start":98.71,"end":102.28,"text":"Stop at Walter Reed, right?"},{"start":102.3,"end":111.91,"text":"And then drive over there, drive over there, and then come back to Walter Reed and see the Secret Service and then go on in."},{"start":111.93,"end":113.84,"text":"Well, without telling anybody, we'll lay that on."},{"start":113.86,"end":121.99,"text":"I don't want to advertise, but I don't think we need to tell anybody to do that."},{"start":122.05,"end":125.85,"text":"Well, just say, well, tell the helicopter guy, I'm going to stop and see this, follow me."},{"start":128.13,"end":130.81,"text":"That's right, Secret Service man, right."},{"start":130.83,"end":135.82,"text":"But then, then, then, yeah."},{"start":135.84,"end":141.3,"text":"And then, and then, well, there's Secret Service out there anyways."},{"start":141.32,"end":145.05,"text":"We've got no problem in that respect."},{"start":145.07,"end":147.67,"text":"Do you mind if I?"},{"start":147.69,"end":149.01,"text":"Secret Service and Holy Cross."},{"start":150.39,"end":155.64,"text":"So, ours, you know, 10 minutes in advance."},{"start":158.96,"end":159.37,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. 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