{"conversationCode":"189-013","tapeNumber":189,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-189-013","startDateTime":"1972-05-17T14:43:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-05-17T14:43:00.000Z","startDate":"17-May-1972","startTime":"10:43 AM","endDate":"17-May-1972","endTime":"10:43 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On May 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 10:43 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 189-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 189-13\n\nDate: May 17, 1972\nTime: 10:43 am\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n     Request for a call to Henry A. Kissinger","filename":["189-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:07:21","tapeEnd":"01:11:04","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"189-012","nextCode":"189-014","transcript":[{"start":4.42,"end":5.33,"text":"Dr. Kissinger, please."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the Camp David operator to facilitate an urgent phone connection with National Security Advisor Henry A. Kissinger. This brief interaction served as a procedural request to initiate high-level communication. The conversation reflects the President's reliance on White House operators to manage secure and immediate access to his key foreign policy advisor.","topics":["Henry Kissinger","National Security","White House Communications","Presidential Protocol"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:48:03.289Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-kissinger","national-security","white-house-communications","presidential-protocol"],"audioDurationSec":8,"audioFiles":[{"file":"189-013.mp3","bytes":315350,"durationSec":7.74,"bitrate":325869,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:33.323Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/189-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/189-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/189/conversation-189-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}