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Conversation 191-015

TapeTape 191StartThursday, May 18, 1972 at 11:44 AMEndThursday, May 18, 1972 at 11:45 AMTape start time00:41:44Tape end time00:43:12ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Recording deviceCamp David Hard Wire
AI Summary

President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman briefly discuss the logistics of Earl Mazo's travel arrangements and potential financial concerns. The two evaluate whether Mazo can be justified for a "cut rate" or subsidized travel, considering Herb Klein's interest in the matter. They ultimately resolve to address the ambiguity of the financing through further coordination with Xavier.

Earl MazoHerb KleinTravel expensesWhite House logisticsCampaign financing
AudioNARA Description

On May 18, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 11:44 am to 11:45 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 191-015 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 191-15

Date: May 18, 1972
Time: 11:44-11:45 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

[See Conversation No. 131-36]
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Yeah.
Did Rose reach you?
Yeah.
What she called me about is the Mazo problem.
And apparently Herb Klein is in the act and he's called and talked to her and says he's dying to go and so forth.
And I said, well, it's a pure case that my buddy will finance it.
You know, the reader's dog just can't go right in.
She says, well, no, Woodrow Wilson sent her for this and that and the other thing will pay its way and be
That's what I told her, that he could, you know, well, if you can, I mean, I have no objection to his going, but I don't believe we can, I don't think we can justify, you know, giving him a cut rate.
I mean, can you?
He's got a few other cut rates, but you know what I mean, the increase, I don't know if that's enough.
But it's a question of getting it unanswered.
First client should have talked to Xavier about it.
What the hell are you doing?
Yeah, okay, bye.
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