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Conversation 192-005

TapeTape 192StartFriday, June 9, 1972 at 10:29 AMEndFriday, June 9, 1972 at 10:52 AMTape start time01:18:17Tape end time01:21:13ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Shultz, George P.Recording deviceCamp David Hard Wire
AI Summary

President Nixon and George Shultz discuss administrative staffing and the challenges of managing the federal budget amidst congressional opposition. The pair evaluates the fiscal implications of various legislative initiatives, including welfare reform and revenue sharing, while identifying the need for strategic presidential vetoes on environmental spending bills. They also confirm the status of recent appointments and coordinate the upcoming arrival of John Ehrlichman to further address these budgetary and legislative priorities.

Federal BudgetCongressional RelationsPresidential VetoesExecutive AppointmentsLegislative StrategyFiscal Policy
AudioNARA Description

On June 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 10:29 am to 10:52 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 192-005 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 192-5

Date: June 9, 1972
Time: 10:29-10:52 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with George P. Shultz.

[See Conversation No. 133-24]

                                        (rev. Jan-02)
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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It was a pretty close day, didn't you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it was overwhelming, and only in a purely partisan vote, and not bad enough.
Well, we thought we'd have at least a swearing-in for all three on Monday.
We have a cap, too, so we can start the week off with everybody in place.
place, right?
I see John Erickman here shortly.
He's arriving back from Stockholm.
We'll figure out some ways to veto some environment bills now.
I hope.
We sure have to save some money someplace.
I don't know where.
I'm serious.
Oh, God, it's unbelievable.
I've read all this stuff.
Of course, when you look at the budget problem, you're figuring things out.
They're victory at the outside, but we've got to realize the way the Congress goes unless we do lead to all these things.
We could reach that outside number of $55 billion in 74, right?
But that's a figure that would happen, though, as I understand it, if we got revenue sharing and if we got welfare reform and if we got the wire bill and if we got all the other kind of things.
But anyway, we'll see.
We're glad you're true and that your people, you're 100% confirmed.
So that's fine, too.
And then you can...
That's right, that's right.
Right.
$66, I believe.
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