{"conversationCode":"193-010","tapeNumber":193,"conversationNumber":10,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-193-010","startDateTime":"1972-06-07T13:41:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-07T13:48:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Jun-1972","startTime":"9:41 AM","endDate":"7-Jun-1972","endTime":"9:48 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Dent, Harry S.;","description":"On June 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Harry S. Dent met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:41 am to 9:48 am. 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