Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 193-018
Date: Thursday, June 8, 1972 at 12:38 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/193-018

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[3:13:27] I think Crystal was the only thing you asked for.
[3:13:28] Did you get any doctors or pharmacists, please?
[3:13:33] Kevin Phillips called me and said he was going to send them.
[3:13:43] Okay.
[3:13:43] China exhibit opened in San Francisco.
[3:13:47] More than 12,000 persons viewed it.
[3:13:49] The largest one-day crowd they've ever had.
[3:13:52] What are we saying?
[3:13:52] What are we saying?
[3:13:54] It's an exhibit of photos and gifts, you know, the China gift display.
[3:13:59] They finally got it on the road.
[3:14:00] They've had it here.
[3:14:03] They've apparently had two of the three local TV stations used a good clip of the exhibit Monday night.
[3:14:09] Chronicle and The Examiner both published stories on it.
[3:14:13] It's on a 13-city tour now.
[3:14:15] One more thing.
[3:14:18] We have the Soviet exhibit also.
[3:14:22] We will.
[3:14:23] Bob?
[3:14:25] No, I think we probably will.
[3:14:26] Yes, they do.
[3:14:27] Do it on a little different kind of basis.
[3:14:30] Yes.
[3:14:31] Rizzo, we worked out the invitation to Italy for him from the mayor of Rome.
[3:14:38] And it all worked out.
[3:14:39] And he said that he...
[3:14:43] Doesn't think he can leave Philadelphia for any extended period during the summer, but very much appreciated your following, your remembering and following up on it all.
[3:14:51] So we scored on that.
[3:14:53] Oh.
[3:14:53] Oh.
[3:14:54] You ready?
[3:14:55] Yeah, with whatever it's going to be, don't hurry.
[3:15:05] Thank you.
[3:16:07] Well, you got your hair cut now, all ready to go, huh?
[3:16:10] All right.
[3:16:14] Yeah.
[3:16:17] Right.
[3:16:21] Good.
[3:16:25] Good.
[3:16:32] Yeah, well...
[3:16:35] We just continue doing what we're doing.
[3:16:40] Yeah, yeah.
[3:16:44] Yeah, yeah.
[3:16:47] So we'll go ahead on that hydroelectric thing, right?
[3:16:53] Fine.
[3:16:53] Did the matter come up directly with regard to the possible visit of the Democratic nominee to Moscow?
[3:17:07] The other part I was going to make is this.
[3:17:10] Did you see this?
[3:17:11] Not only stupid thing that McGovern should be doing in Hanoi.
[3:17:27] Yeah, he's been surrendered in Paris.
[3:17:28] He doesn't have to go to Hanoi to surrender.
[3:17:30] That should be the line that you should put up to Coulson's group.
[3:17:35] Luckily, he should be attacked if this is a shocking thing.
[3:17:39] He doesn't have to go to Hanoi to surrender.
[3:17:47] They've got to be in Hanoi.
[3:17:55] That's funny for a human being.
[3:18:00] He's still hammering hell out of them with those B-52s.
[3:18:13] He's making the trail almost invisible.
[3:18:18] Oh, I see.
[3:18:19] By the way, it rained.
[3:18:27] These people are not Superman, Henry.
[3:18:33] They're not Superman.
[3:18:38] Well, I wish you well on your trip to the 4-3.
[3:18:46] Take care of your mom.
[3:18:49] Yeah.
[3:18:50] Yeah.
[3:18:52] Yeah, well, what the hell, what you do there is, you know what I mean, off the back of your hand.
[3:18:59] Try and incidentally make our ambassador feel like bringing him to something.
[3:19:04] Because basically he is totally going to build him up with his staff.
[3:19:07] You know what I mean?
[3:19:08] It's one of those things.
[3:19:11] So if you can do that, it isn't like what the Soviet and Chinese, who we didn't want the ambassador, as well as the Soviet.
[3:19:30] Right.
[3:19:31] Right.
[3:19:32] Good.
[3:19:33] That's good.
[3:19:34] That's good.
[3:19:37] Well, we, uh, we're going to go forward on a very quiet basis.
[3:19:41] I'll handle it myself.
[3:19:42] I mean, you can just put Fort Bright off and say you can't have an answer.
[3:19:48] I mean, did that, did you submit it to me as you were there?
[3:19:53] And, uh, we'll, uh, we'll, because we, we can't give him
[3:19:58] We can't give him the satisfaction of announcing it.
[3:20:02] I have to announce it.
[3:20:10] You mean just have that announcement later?
[3:20:18] Before my conference.
[3:20:27] No, no, no, I would.
[3:20:28] But when do you want it announced on Tuesday?
[3:20:31] Well, then it could be announced in the morning, see?
[3:20:35] And I don't plan to have my Congress until 3 in the afternoon anyway.
[3:20:40] See?
[3:20:42] But I prefer it on Tuesday.
[3:20:45] Yeah.
[3:20:48] And it'd be good for me to come on then and announce you're going to testify and then I'll blanket it, see?
[3:20:53] That's not... Oh, yes, I do.
[3:20:58] I can't if I, because of the, you just don't figure that you've got, the way the Senate always plays, well, we've got to know, we've got to know three days in advance.
[3:21:08] They don't have, they can know what one hour in advance they'll take.
[3:21:13] And this will be, this will be 24 hours in advance.
[3:21:14] It'll build like hell that day and then the next morning.
[3:21:20] And, uh,
[3:21:24] We want to get it with maximum yield, as little discussion as possible.
[3:21:36] So it appears we have done it rather than they have forced us to do it.
[3:21:47] We'll let them know an hour in advance if we're going to do anything else.
[3:21:53] That's about all.
[3:21:53] I think that's the way we want to do it, so that we are not in the position of being dragged down there.
[3:21:58] That would be a very bad situation if we're that way.
[3:22:08] We'll tell him exactly what he can say.
[3:22:10] I'll probably do it in the form of a letter or something like that.
[3:22:13] But any of that, we will now not submit the treaty until Tuesday.
[3:22:15] Is that correct?
[3:22:21] But we'll work on it.
[3:22:25] Well, we hope you have a good trip, Henry.
[3:22:27] At least I know it's going to be good, but I hope it's not too tiring.
[3:22:32] Hi.
[3:22:33] Bye.