{"conversationCode":"194-013","tapeNumber":194,"conversationNumber":13,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-194-013","startDateTime":"1972-06-24T17:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-06-24T18:29:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Jun-1972","startTime":"1:36 PM","endDate":"24-Jun-1972","endTime":"2:29 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On June 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:36 pm and 2:29 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 194-013 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":3,"chronRelease":"Third Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"28-Feb-2002","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 194-13\n\nDate: June 24, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 1:36 and 2:29 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with Manolo Sanchez.\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 05/20/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[194-013-w001]\n[Duration: 29s]\n\n       Menu for evening of June 24, 1972\n             -Pork chop\n                    -Tomato sauce\n             -Meal preferences\n                    -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II\n                    -The President\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 2:29 pm.","filename":["194-013.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:43:47","tapeEnd":"01:47:23","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"194-012","nextCode":"194-014","transcript":[{"start":9.3,"end":11.86,"text":"What are we going to have tonight to eat?"},{"start":11.92,"end":16.29,"text":"It would be nice to have a beautiful pork chop to take with us."},{"start":16.69,"end":17.99,"text":"Cooked in tomato sauce."},{"start":18.15,"end":19.96,"text":"Sure, David likes it."},{"start":20.02,"end":20.76,"text":"He likes it."},{"start":20.78,"end":21.16,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":21.26,"end":21.64,"text":"He likes it."},{"start":21.66,"end":23.16,"text":"Everybody likes it, sir."},{"start":23.24,"end":23.7,"text":"I like it."},{"start":23.72,"end":24.38,"text":"I'm sure he likes it."},{"start":24.4,"end":25.16,"text":"Yes, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal valet, Manolo Sanchez, at Camp David to discuss menu arrangements for the evening meal. The two reviewed preferences for the President and his son-in-law, David Eisenhower, specifically deciding on pork chops prepared with tomato sauce. The brief exchange served to finalize culinary plans for the household.","topics":["Camp David","White House domestic staff","Manolo Sanchez","Menu planning","Personal life"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T09:58:08.576Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","white-house-domestic-staff","manolo-sanchez","menu-planning","personal-life"],"audioDurationSec":29,"audioFiles":[{"file":"194-013.mp3","bytes":1150224,"durationSec":28.63,"bitrate":321443,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:33.324Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:01.997Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/194-013.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/194-013","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/194/conversation-194-013","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}