{"conversationCode":"196-028","tapeNumber":196,"conversationNumber":28,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-196-028","startDateTime":"1972-07-23T19:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-23T19:05:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Jul-1972","startTime":"3:05 PM","endDate":"23-Jul-1972","endTime":"3:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On July 23, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 3:05 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 196-028 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 196-28\n\nDate: July 23, 1972\nTime: 3:05 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 136-29]","filename":["196-028.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"196-027","nextCode":"196-029","transcript":[{"start":0.96,"end":12.13,"text":"I would like to get a call to Senator, former Senator George Smatters."},{"start":12.15,"end":20.79,"text":"He, the White House operator, probably has a number for him in Florida or in Washington."},{"start":22.07,"end":23.37,"text":"I understand that he's in North Carolina today."},{"start":23.81,"end":33.67,"text":"And if it's too difficult to reach them, don't bother."},{"start":33.69,"end":34.35,"text":"You don't need to call them back."},{"start":34.38,"end":35.42,"text":"But just leave the call to the White House operator."},{"start":35.44,"end":36.89,"text":"If they don't reach you today, they can put it through tomorrow morning."},{"start":36.91,"end":37.01,"text":"Okay."},{"start":37.03,"end":37.23,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the Camp David operator to facilitate a telephone call to former Senator George Smathers. The President requested that the operator coordinate with the White House switchboard to locate Smathers, who was reportedly in North Carolina at the time. Nixon provided instructions to prioritize reaching the former Senator but specified that the attempt could be postponed until the following morning if immediate contact proved difficult.","topics":["George Smathers","Communication logistics","Presidential scheduling","Camp David"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:03:39.640Z"},"topicSlugs":["george-smathers","communication-logistics","presidential-scheduling","camp-david"],"audioDurationSec":37,"audioFiles":[{"file":"196-028.mp3","bytes":894013,"durationSec":37.19,"bitrate":192329,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:35.863Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:02.332Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/196-028.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/196-028","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/196/conversation-196-028","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}