{"conversationCode":"196-035","tapeNumber":196,"conversationNumber":35,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-196-035","startDateTime":"1972-07-23T20:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-23T22:54:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Jul-1972","startTime":"4:04 PM","endDate":"23-Jul-1972","endTime":"6:54 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Connally, John B.; Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On July 23, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, John B. Connally, and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:04 pm and 6:54 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 196-035 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 196-35\n\nDate: July 23, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:04 pm and 6:54 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President dictated a memorandum for John B. Connally with a copy to Charles W. Colson.\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 3m 11s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[End of dictation]","filename":["196-035.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Connally, John B.","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"196-034","nextCode":"196-036","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":6.28,"text":"It's a memorandum to John Conway, the copy of Colson."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon dictates a memorandum addressed to John B. Connally with a copy directed to Charles W. Colson during a gathering at Camp David. The interaction serves as a formal administrative record for the President to formalize instructions or strategic directives to his advisors. Following the dictation, the conversation transitions into a brief period of personal, non-archived discussion.","topics":["Presidential memorandum","John B. Connally","Charles W. Colson","Administration policy","Executive directives"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:04:18.121Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-memorandum","john-b-connally","charles-w-colson","administration-policy","executive-directives"],"audioDurationSec":20,"audioFiles":[{"file":"196-035.mp3","bytes":473337,"durationSec":19.65,"bitrate":192674,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:33.573Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:02.333Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/196-035.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/196-035","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/196/conversation-196-035","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}