{"conversationCode":"198-005","tapeNumber":198,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-198-005","startDateTime":"1972-07-25T14:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-25T14:09:00.000Z","startDate":"25-Jul-1972","startTime":"10:07 AM","endDate":"25-Jul-1972","endTime":"10:09 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On July 25, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:07 am and 10:09 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 198-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 198-5\n\nDate: July 29, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:07 am and 10:09 am\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator\n\n[See Conversation No. 138-4]\n\n                                        (rev. Mar-02)","filename":["198-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"198-004","nextCode":"198-006","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":1.13,"text":"you"}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiated a brief communication with the Camp David operator from the Aspen Lodge study. The interaction primarily involved standard administrative procedures regarding telephonic connectivity. No significant policy discussions or substantive developments occurred during this brief exchange.","topics":["Camp David","Telecommunications","White House operations","Presidential logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:06:30.752Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","telecommunications","white-house-operations","presidential-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"198-005.mp3","bytes":220681,"durationSec":9.13,"bitrate":193297,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:35.863Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/198-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/198-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/198/conversation-198-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}