{"conversationCode":"198-020","tapeNumber":198,"conversationNumber":20,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-198-020","startDateTime":"1972-07-30T17:06:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-30T17:32:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Jul-1972","startTime":"1:06 PM","endDate":"30-Jul-1972","endTime":"1:32 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On July 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:06 pm to 1:32 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 198-020 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 198-20\n\nDate: July 30, 1972\nTime: 1:06 pm - 1:32 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n[See Conversation No. 138-10; two items have been withdrawn from this conversation]","filename":["198-020.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"198-019","nextCode":"198-021","transcript":[{"start":10.97,"end":21.82,"text":"Besides, is he even having told her?"},{"start":21.84,"end":23.14,"text":"If it's him he told her that she wasn't coming, she could say it."},{"start":23.16,"end":25.95,"text":"This makes it decided because she had such infection."},{"start":25.97,"end":27.01,"text":"She was not there when she wanted to come."},{"start":27.03,"end":27.35,"text":"No problem, sir."},{"start":27.37,"end":28.45,"text":"The health correction people are doing is best for us."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman discuss the management of a sensitive personal situation involving an individual's absence due to an infection. The dialogue focuses on ensuring that the public or private narrative regarding her inability to attend is handled consistently to avoid potential complications. Haldeman provides reassurance to the President that the current approach is the most effective course of action for the administration.","topics":["Public relations","Internal administration management","Personnel matters","Crisis management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:07:51.940Z"},"topicSlugs":["public-relations","internal-administration-management","personnel-matters","crisis-management"],"audioDurationSec":70,"audioFiles":[{"file":"198-020.mp3","bytes":1683956,"durationSec":70.11,"bitrate":192159,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:35.863Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/198-020.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/198-020","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/198/conversation-198-020","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}