{"conversationCode":"198-021","tapeNumber":198,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-198-021","startDateTime":"1972-07-30T17:32:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-07-30T17:56:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Jul-1972","startTime":"1:32 PM","endDate":"30-Jul-1972","endTime":"1:56 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On July 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 1:32 pm and 1:56 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 198-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 198-21\n\nDate: July 30, 1972\nTime: Unknown time 1:32 pm and 1:56 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with Manolo Sanchez.\n\n     Lounge chairs\n         -Placement\n         -Weather\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 1:56 pm.","filename":["198-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"198-020","nextCode":"198-022","transcript":[{"start":0.5,"end":6.87,"text":"No, we could tell them to put the loungers up there because we know it's not an outbox."},{"start":11.4,"end":12.26,"text":"It's not too bad."},{"start":12.28,"end":13.78,"text":"We could sit out there."},{"start":13.8,"end":14.08,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":14.1,"end":16.81,"text":"It's mirrored, sir, because it's more hot."},{"start":16.83,"end":17.23,"text":"It's not cool."},{"start":17.59,"end":18.53,"text":"It's the right one, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his valet, Manolo Sanchez, consulted on the logistical arrangements for outdoor seating at the Aspen Lodge at Camp David. The discussion focused on the placement of lounge chairs to ensure optimal comfort given the prevailing weather conditions. No significant political or administrative decisions were made during this brief exchange regarding the presidential residence.","topics":["Camp David","Presidential living quarters","Manolo Sanchez","Logistics","Personal staff"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:07:57.214Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","presidential-living-quarters","manolo-sanchez","logistics","personal-staff"],"audioDurationSec":22,"audioFiles":[{"file":"198-021.mp3","bytes":534777,"durationSec":22.23,"bitrate":192481,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:35.863Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/198-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/198-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/198/conversation-198-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}