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Conversation 200-017

TapeTape 200StartWednesday, August 9, 1972 at 1:47 PMEndWednesday, August 9, 1972 at 1:52 PMParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Ehrlichman, John D.Recording deviceCamp David Hard Wire
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On August 9, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:47 pm to 1:52 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 200-017 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 200-17

Date: August 9, 1972
Time: 1:47 pm - 1:52 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with John D. Ehrlichman.

[See Conversation No. 139-4]
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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You wanted to talk to me about that railroad thing a little more?
I talked to Mopi last night.
Mopi says planning it as a pollution.
What advice do you have for planning a pollution?
Well, then we have to do this.
Well, then we
Why do we have to be so obtrusive?
Big business?
Bailing on big business?
He says there are a lot of railroad workers, right?
Right, right.
Well, I think...
It may not be all that big a problem on the big business side.
I don't know about Chris, but it seems we always have this problem, don't we?
You help anything to save jobs, and you're helping business.
So if you feel that... Yeah.
All right, sure.
Sure, take the latitude.
Okay.
Good.
Okay.
I was noting in the post some piece with regard to the fact that Richardson apparently had recommended, at least was alleged to have recommended that we oppose this giveaway to the state, you know, and that sort of thing.
wasn't true or not i mean i mean understand i'm i'm totally against the goddamn thing but i i understood we had no choice how can we lit it though at this point yes for legislation putting a lid on but pointing out that we had no choice and uh did we delay them up actually or not
Of ATW?
I mean, does Elliot have any idea who leaked it?
I suppose not.
That's not true, is it?
That's true.
I knew when I saw it, I would rather laugh at the fact that, my God, this is one that we couldn't feel more strongly about.
If anything, we would have been doing it the other way.
Mm-hmm.
That's fine.
Okay, John.
Good, good.
Okay.
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