Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 201-009
Date: Saturday, August 12, 1972 at 8:50 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob"); Sanchez, Manolo
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/201-009

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[0:12] ran up the hall for the Hall of the Pile.
[0:36] The Elk Pips, the barber, has indicated a couple of occasions that he's very glad to go to Florida.
[0:38] He can't paint.
[0:38] That is so expensive.
[0:39] Apparently he has a brother who lives in Miami.
[0:40] He would like to go on a visit to one of the buildings.
[0:45] I think we have a rule.
[1:10] We might have a break before we go down on one of the times.
[1:11] It's not fine.
[1:12] We should not have to keep going down for the purpose of the services we make.
[1:15] But, uh, we just have been invited to come to office because of his liable service, uh, to the president and the White House staff.
[1:37] Long chance.
[1:38] And we, uh, need him when I'm there.
[1:38] Of course, we could use him.
[1:39] Although, I have, uh, no expectation, whatever, that that would be the case.
[1:41] Follow this up any way you want.
[1:58] Don't discuss it any further.
[1:59] Also, with regard to Ehrlichman, would you indicate to him that I bet that they're going to handle it the wrong way?
[2:01] That it might be disgusting to him that there's a case with Ronnie?
[2:04] I voted for the governor.
[2:32] I was curious as to whether my directing was several weeks ago that someone in the press, and lacking that, someone writing him a letter or some friendly person putting in, questioning members of the staff,
[3:03] wouldn't confront him with how he voted in 1964 on the Mansfield motion, which proposed the repeal of 350 on the ground as Mansfield put it.
[3:26] That quote, no president should debate this quote.
[3:27] This point has not been made in any public forum that I know of.
[3:29] Colson has been so busy with the Democrats in connection, he has not followed up on any of the law I indicated, but I thought it was quite important to show how he has turned 180 degrees around on this.
[3:56] I want you to follow up on Colson, and if any other way to see things.
[3:58] Thanks to Dale McEverett.
[3:59] purely political, to make the debate challenging.
[4:22] To be honest, since he had taken exactly the other position in 1924, and Johnson was the candidate, and also the president, it would change my position.
[4:25] But, I'm glad for you to say that I've changed, because having come to the presidency,
[4:27] I realize that with all the sensitivity of the nation, sensitivity that you're discussing with warm heart, it would not serve and it would be injurious to the national interest of any for the president to debate this at all.
[4:52] It's important to hear what happens in following up on this project.
[4:54] Also, all of the discussions earlier,
[4:56] Robert's recommendation was that I go to Wilkes-Barre.
[5:18] This seems to me to be a very stupid suggestion as of this time.
[5:21] I'm going to run to what Robert ran into in the space after the convention.
[5:23] Particularly after we have a bunch of cargo teams who have had to go forward with that plan.
[5:24] I'm going to go to the others.
[5:25] I'm scheduled.
[5:25] I'm in the area.
[5:26] uh
[6:05] Okay, now take those two tapes over to the mural.
[6:19] And would you just, do we have to get these up here?
[6:23] Yes, sir.
[6:24] Can I get a couple more of those?
[6:25] Yes, sir.
[6:39] It has occurred to me that we should begin now on a script which will tend to assist your purposes in reversing the universe, and to downgrade another's quote for angry end quote, which suppresses our perception of what we want to be called.
[7:05] What?
[7:34] What?
[7:34] What?
[7:35] more contact with people than any man with every certain presence.
[7:58] In particular, compared to my actions, the situation we found in 1968 when Johnson was virtually a prisoner in the White House, the possibility of violence, and he pushed to go into the country was great.
[8:02] My forays around the White House, to watch for the creatures of the military,
[8:05] Should not go unnoticed.
[8:27] And laying the groundwork for this.
[8:27] Third, what needs to be done here is to get out a story.
[8:29] Which will be brought to the searchlight for stuff.
[8:30] R.N.S.D.
[8:30] doing person-to-person work, not only in 50 states, but in blind countries as we continue to do so.
[8:55] Very, very, very good.
[8:55] I know that some will say that the people that like this because of their concern about security and reverence.
[8:57] We both know, we all know that the
[8:59] Incidents like reverence occur when there are scheduled stops.
[9:24] They do not occur when the stops are unscheduled.
[9:25] The unscheduled has got to stop, which I have always insisted upon.
[9:26] Read my chapter, Caracas, Six Crises.
[9:27] All right, that's on Lima.
[9:27] And then there in the section on Lima, Peru.
[9:28] And on Caracas.
[9:29] that it was my decisions.
[9:45] Or Kate's patterns.
[9:45] With the demonstrators off balance.
[9:52] And which at least in practice probably have the effect of saving my life.
[9:54] I think it will be rather easy to get this point across.
[9:57] because people are going to be asking about the brimmer.
[10:23] Great.
[10:23] I think we should build it up to an extent that threats all the time.
[10:24] The president insists that that may not rash, but we still have the opportunity to meet people throughout the country.
[10:28] I'd like to do this anyway, instead of making a virtue out of it, rather than running into what we get out of it in the press.
[10:50] We did so, but I did so, in order to answer McCartney's attack.
[10:51] And, uh, I had no such a policy as far as I was concerned.
[10:54] I'm reporting on board.
[10:59] How do you take care of the purpose or direction?