{"conversationCode":"202-025","tapeNumber":202,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-202-025","startDateTime":"1972-08-16T20:11:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-17T01:06:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Aug-1972","startTime":"4:11 PM","endDate":"16-Aug-1972","endTime":"9:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On August 16, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:11 pm and 9:06 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 202-025 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 202-25\n\nDate: August 16, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:11 pm and 9:06 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with Manolo Sanchez.\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -Secret Service\n\n     Office supplies\n          -Legal pads\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 9:06 pm.","filename":["202-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"202-024","nextCode":"202-026","transcript":[{"start":0.52,"end":3.78,"text":"Are we going to stay?"},{"start":4.14,"end":9.87,"text":"Are we not going to go back?"},{"start":9.89,"end":12.29,"text":"Let's go."},{"start":12.31,"end":12.86,"text":"Let's go."},{"start":13.56,"end":14.38,"text":"Let's go."},{"start":14.5,"end":17.96,"text":"Let's go."},{"start":24.11,"end":25.25,"text":"Woman, hello."},{"start":25.27,"end":27.03,"text":"The yellow pads are different kinds."},{"start":27.05,"end":28.43,"text":"This is what it"},{"start":29.29,"end":32.64,"text":"I do not like it as well as the big one."},{"start":32.66,"end":34.94,"text":"Oh, I see, sir."},{"start":34.98,"end":36.06,"text":"Let me have evidence."},{"start":36.08,"end":37.14,"text":"Evidence, little bird."},{"start":37.4,"end":37.98,"text":"That's right."},{"start":38.18,"end":47.13,"text":"This is the one I want."},{"start":47.15,"end":50.48,"text":"It's okay, I don't believe nobody, sir."},{"start":51.66,"end":52.82,"text":"Number 969."},{"start":53.96,"end":55.7,"text":"Evidence."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with his personal aide, Manolo Sanchez, at Camp David to discuss logistical arrangements and the President's personal preferences. The conversation primarily focused on the President's upcoming schedule, coordination with the Secret Service, and a specific preference regarding office supplies. Nixon expressed dissatisfaction with the provided legal pads, explicitly identifying the preferred style and model number to ensure he was adequately equipped for his work.","topics":["Presidential schedule","Secret Service","Office supplies","Personal staff","Camp David"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:15:40.960Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-schedule","secret-service","office-supplies","personal-staff","camp-david"],"audioDurationSec":67,"audioFiles":[{"file":"202-025.mp3","bytes":1609977,"durationSec":67.03,"bitrate":192159,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:35.864Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/202-025.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/202-025","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/202/conversation-202-025","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}