Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 203-022 Date: Thursday, August 17, 1972 at 3:06 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L. Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/203-022 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:06] Good. [0:30] Ira, how are you? [0:31] Hi. [0:31] Good. [0:31] Sure. [0:31] Right. [0:31] Yeah. [0:31] Yeah. [0:31] Yeah. [0:32] Yeah. [0:42] . [0:45] . [0:49] . [1:11] Got it. [1:40] ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... [2:09] I would think the press guys would, I don't know if there's any fairness in them at all, they would see that this is a bad thing for the country. [2:34] I mean, maybe we're not... [2:54] No, no, that's what you're doing. [3:01] Not your dick on our White House staff. [3:04] We have the hatchet in heaven. [3:09] All right, I'm glad you did this thing. [3:11] And if you'll pass it on to Julie. [3:14] She's the chairman of Washington. [3:14] And just, just, yeah. [3:20] All right, let's just, I mean, we just know you should let them get ground. [3:23] Wow. [3:26] We can always change our mind later. [3:30] I just don't believe we're walking into one. [3:32] We may find somebody better. [3:33] We may get a better offer. [3:34] Who knows? [3:35] We'll have an offer for him. [3:36] Don't worry. [3:36] Particularly after he makes another trip. [3:43] That's it. [3:44] Right. [3:44] And all of his trips, of course. [3:45] What the hell? [3:47] One thing about this, though, was so interesting. [3:51] Clark... [3:52] We're setting them up to blame them when things don't come off. [4:10] Do you agree? [4:17] Do you think so? [4:17] No. [4:23] I don't know. [4:25] Of course, the negative side is that people don't say, well, we shouldn't have a war to talk about and so forth. [4:31] But I suppose that the other side of that, though, is that if they weren't talking about it in a confused way, they would be attacking us in other ways. [4:41] I mean, the issue is there. [4:43] They're going to make it. [5:10] Well, you did the right thing. [5:21] I think you did the right thing. [5:28] You've done exactly what you should. [5:33] Okay. [5:33] Thanks.