Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 205 › Conversation 205-008

Nixon phone call with Haldeman on Education reform and Domestic policy

Saturday, August 19, 1972 · 12:02 PM–12:03 PM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Conversation205-008 on Tape 205StartSaturday, August 19, 1972 at 12:02 PMEndSaturday, August 19, 1972 at 12:03 PMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 205-008 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon instructed H. R. Haldeman to secure substantive, bold proposals for education reform to be integrated into administration policy. The President expressed a preference for sourcing these ideas from the Domestic Council or, if necessary, through consultation with Ken Cole. Haldeman acknowledged the directive, marking a push for the development of concrete educational initiatives.

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I want to be sure that somebody gets at it and puts in some nice strong ideas about reform of education, you know what I mean?
But I just wanted to make sure that thought was, if somebody could get that in, put in a couple of good things.
If you probably can't get it out of the domestic council, you might try to talk to Ken as well as the domestic council.
All right.

NARA Description

On August 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 12:02 pm to 12:03 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 205-008 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 205-8

Date: August 19, 1972
Time: 12:02 pm - 12:03 pm
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

[See Conversation No. 140-40]

Also recorded on August 19, 1972

  • 140-039 11:49 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 11:49 am and 12:02 pm.
  • 140-040 12:02 PM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:02 pm to 12:05 pm.
  • 140-041 12:03 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:03 pm and 12:11 pm.
  • 205-009 12:03 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:03 pm and 12:11 pm.
  • 140-042 12:11 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:11 pm to 12:14 pm.
  • 205-010 12:11 PM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 12:11 pm to 12:14 pm.
  • 176-007 12:14 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:14 pm and 12:33 pm.
  • 205-011 12:14 PM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 12:14 pm and 12:33 pm.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 205-008, August 19, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/205-008 (accessed October 8, 2026).