{"conversationCode":"205-008","tapeNumber":205,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-205-008","startDateTime":"1972-08-19T16:02:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-08-19T16:03:00.000Z","startDate":"19-Aug-1972","startTime":"12:02 PM","endDate":"19-Aug-1972","endTime":"12:03 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On August 19, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 12:02 pm to 12:03 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 205-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 205-8\n\nDate: August 19, 1972\nTime: 12:02 pm - 12:03 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n[See Conversation No. 140-40]","filename":["205-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"205-007","nextCode":"205-009","transcript":[{"start":6.29,"end":23.2,"text":"I want to be sure that somebody gets at it and puts in some nice strong ideas about reform of education, you know what I mean?"},{"start":39.52,"end":60.05,"text":"But I just wanted to make sure that thought was, if somebody could get that in, put in a couple of good things."},{"start":60.07,"end":62.45,"text":"If you probably can't get it out of the domestic council, you might try to talk to Ken as well as the domestic council."},{"start":62.47,"end":62.67,"text":"All right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed H. R. Haldeman to secure substantive, bold proposals for education reform to be integrated into administration policy. The President expressed a preference for sourcing these ideas from the Domestic Council or, if necessary, through consultation with Ken Cole. Haldeman acknowledged the directive, marking a push for the development of concrete educational initiatives.","topics":["Education reform","Domestic policy","H. R. Haldeman","Domestic Council","Ken Cole"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:20:36.200Z"},"topicSlugs":["education-reform","domestic-policy","h-r-haldeman","domestic-council","ken-cole"],"audioDurationSec":66,"audioFiles":[{"file":"205-008.mp3","bytes":1580511,"durationSec":65.79,"bitrate":192198,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:35.864Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/205-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/205-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/205/conversation-205-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}