Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 207-006
Date: Monday, August 21, 1972 at 12:28 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/207-006

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[0:08] I'm going to be interested in using it sometime.
[0:11] I'll do it right after the convention.
[0:13] Yeah, right.
[0:16] I'm going to take it to Florida.
[0:18] Right, right.
[0:19] I want to go over a couple of brief questions if I can.
[0:23] First, with regard to the...
[0:26] I'm just checking the numbers and things now.
[0:29] I use the term hundreds of draft evaders.
[0:32] Is it thousands or hundreds?
[0:36] I think I can say hundreds and get away with it.
[0:39] All right, I'll just say hundreds.
[0:40] Who at least have gone to Canada.
[0:43] That's funny, sir.
[0:43] They're not.
[0:47] Well, I think it's just as well to say hundreds.
[0:48] I just don't want to say thousands, you see.
[0:50] All right, fine.
[0:51] Second point.
[0:54] You remember we had that, you suggested a line about standing by our Europe and Asia and so forth.
[1:03] I put in a very good line on it.
[1:04] And the point is, you said Europe and Asia.
[1:07] Allies, shouldn't I say allies?
[1:11] Or do we have allies in Latin America?
[1:16] I'll call them that then.
[1:18] Why don't we say Europe, Asia, and Latin America?
[1:23] Yeah.
[1:23] I mean, Val Cruz, I mean, basically, we have the Alliance for Progress and the Statement of Caracas and all that sort of thing.
[1:33] But I agree they're not allies.
[1:34] But if you prefer not, leave it out.
[1:37] I just wonder if the Latins might not appreciate
[1:40] Why don't we just say our allies and friends?
[1:47] Our allies and friends in Europe, Asia.
[1:49] I'm not going to mention Africa.
[1:50] God, that's going too far.
[1:53] Do you mind just saying Europe, Asia and Latin?
[1:55] See, we've got them.
[1:58] Yeah, and very few friends.
[2:00] Okay.
[2:02] I've got a second.
[2:03] The final point is one that we discussed but that I come back to again.
[2:10] I said that regardless of how the negotiations come out, that we can, that we now help by the way that the South Vietnamese have met the offensive of the enemy.
[2:28] They, and you said they have the capacity to defend themselves.
[2:34] I wonder if that strip doesn't have a problem
[2:56] I know it's stronger the other way, but it doesn't hurt it any to say soon.
[3:01] Because that really means, well, we've got an operation.
[3:03] That's what I was really trying to say.
[3:05] Okay.
[3:06] I'll put soon in.
[3:07] Okay.
[3:08] That's all I have.
[3:10] Thank you.
[3:14] All right.
[3:15] Good.
[3:34] there but I think they do now sure that's what I mean right as long as it would irritate us without