{"conversationCode":"211-022","tapeNumber":211,"conversationNumber":22,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-211-022","startDateTime":"1972-09-17T17:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-17T18:22:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Sep-1972","startTime":"1:53 PM","endDate":"17-Sep-1972","endTime":"2:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On September 17, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 1:53 pm to 2:22 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 211-022 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 211-22\n\nDate: September 17, 1972\nTime: 1:53 pm - 2:22 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n[See Conversation no. 143-9; one item has been withdrawn from this conversation]","filename":["211-022.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"211-021","nextCode":"212-001","transcript":[{"start":0.32,"end":7.57,"text":"Well, you're having a blast, aren't you?"},{"start":7.59,"end":8.71,"text":"Are you full in your backyard?"},{"start":9.67,"end":11.39,"text":"That's good."},{"start":11.41,"end":12.01,"text":"Where do you live?"},{"start":12.33,"end":18.74,"text":"How long does it take you up there?"},{"start":18.76,"end":19.1,"text":"At all?"},{"start":20.2,"end":21.22,"text":"I thought it was a freeway."},{"start":21.26,"end":26.37,"text":"That's right."},{"start":26.39,"end":28.13,"text":"That must be a good choice."},{"start":28.94,"end":53.33,"text":"much better than living in that miserable georgetown all those rats oh god you know i you know uh i think secret church afraid to go through there yeah yeah yeah yeah well how's the how's the uh uh"},{"start":59.78,"end":62.35,"text":"I guess, uh, yeah."},{"start":63.37,"end":65.61,"text":"But, uh, whitewash and so forth."},{"start":65.63,"end":69.72,"text":"But, uh, I think somebody else might have said now, look, either put up or shut up."},{"start":74.08,"end":81.75,"text":"I saw that."},{"start":81.81,"end":82.83,"text":"It'd go a week, I think."},{"start":82.93,"end":83.57,"text":"Maybe you're right."},{"start":83.73,"end":87.41,"text":"I, uh, rather than do one or two days because, uh,"},{"start":99.2,"end":124.15,"text":"Try it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss general living arrangements and the ongoing political implications of the Watergate investigation. The conversation centers on strategic messaging regarding potential \"whitewash\" accusations against the administration. Nixon and Colson deliberate on the timing and public framing of their response to these allegations, ultimately leaning toward a sustained public push rather than a brief rebuttal.","topics":["Watergate","Public Relations","Administration Strategy","Political Messaging","Whitewash"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:29:29.610Z"},"topicSlugs":["watergate","public-relations","administration-strategy","political-messaging","whitewash"],"audioDurationSec":146,"audioFiles":[{"file":"211-022.mp3","bytes":3507094,"durationSec":146.05,"bitrate":192099,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:35.864Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/211-022.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/211-022","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/211/conversation-211-022","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}