{"conversationCode":"213-003","tapeNumber":213,"conversationNumber":3,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-213-003","startDateTime":"1972-09-23T20:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-23T20:50:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Sep-1972","startTime":"4:50 PM","endDate":"23-Sep-1972","endTime":"4:50 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On September 23, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at 4:50 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 213-003 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 213-3\n\nDate: September 23, 1972\nTime: 4:50 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with an unknown man.\n\n             Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's schedule\n                 -Return to Camp David\n\n             Telephone call from Henry A. Kissinger\n\nThe unknown man left at 4:50 pm.","filename":["213-003.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"213-002","nextCode":"213-004","transcript":[{"start":0.2,"end":7.38,"text":"No, I don't know."},{"start":7.42,"end":10.03,"text":"They said around 6.30, but I better check."},{"start":10.05,"end":12.1,"text":"Dr. Kissinger has called."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with an unknown individual at the Aspen Lodge to coordinate logistics regarding First Lady Pat Nixon's return schedule to Camp David. During the brief discussion, the President was also notified that Henry Kissinger had placed a telephone call, prompting a need to verify the timing of the First Lady's arrival. The meeting concluded immediately following the notification of Kissinger's message.","topics":["Pat Nixon","Henry Kissinger","Camp David","Schedule coordination","Presidential communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:30:35.800Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","henry-kissinger","camp-david","schedule-coordination","presidential-communications"],"audioDurationSec":15,"audioFiles":[{"file":"213-003.mp3","bytes":361115,"durationSec":14.97,"bitrate":192937,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.204Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/213-003.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/213-003","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/213/conversation-213-003","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}