{"conversationCode":"213-008","tapeNumber":213,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-213-008","startDateTime":"1972-09-23T21:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-23T21:32:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Sep-1972","startTime":"5:10 PM","endDate":"23-Sep-1972","endTime":"5:32 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On September 23, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:10 pm and 5:32 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 213-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 213-8\n\nDate: September 23, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 5:10 pm and 5:32 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation no. 154-4]","filename":["213-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"213-007","nextCode":"213-009","transcript":[{"start":0.3,"end":4.29,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":4.3,"end":5.63,"text":"Oh, that's alright."},{"start":5.65,"end":6.08,"text":"Call me back."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon contacted the Camp David operator from the Aspen Lodge study to address an unspecified communication matter. The brief exchange focused on establishing a connection, during which the President instructed the operator to return his call. No substantial policy discussions or administrative decisions were recorded during this brief interaction.","topics":["Camp David","Communication logistics","Presidential operations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:31:02.487Z"},"topicSlugs":["camp-david","communication-logistics","presidential-operations"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"213-008.mp3","bytes":223189,"durationSec":9.24,"bitrate":193237,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.204Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/213-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/213-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/213/conversation-213-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}