Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 213-010 Date: Saturday, September 23, 1972 at 5:32 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W. Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/213-010 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:12] and I deliberately got into some of the foreign policy and the embassy stuff and so forth, because they need to hear that. [0:19] I mean, they believe that, and we just may as well lay that out there. [0:23] We'll get McGovern talking about it. [0:27] What can he say about it? [0:32] He'll say, well, we'll have them work in a peace corps. [0:35] Uh-uh. [0:37] Uh-uh. [0:37] Sir, hell no. [0:38] These poor bastards have got chuffed from working in a peace corps. [0:42] No. [0:46] Either that or change his position. [0:51] He'll come to school. [0:55] Yeah. [0:56] That's what they feel you meant, don't they? [1:11] You know, Julie was saying that she'd heard McGovern say that he's not for legalizing marijuana. [1:17] And I said, what did he say? [1:18] He said, well, he wants to be like alcohol. [1:20] I said, that's legalizing it. [1:22] Alcohol is illegal. [1:22] You know, I don't even get off of that view. [1:32] Actually, I am for modification of penalties in many areas, but I don't talk about it anymore. [1:43] I know, on TV time, haven't we? [1:46] Yeah. [1:48] Right. [1:50] It's got to be, upon emphasis, we've all got to be exactly the same. [2:06] And we've got to say, as what I said there, that people who deserve must pay up heavily. [2:10] use the word penalty so that it doesn't look like they're just going to come back, you know, because, and they should. [2:16] I mean, it's wrong for anybody to come back. [2:19] They're going to come back, as Lincoln said, I thought they could serve a number of days they're out of the country in prison. [2:30] They ought to take away their citizenship. [2:35] Why shouldn't we? [2:40] All right, right? [2:47] Yeah. [2:48] Good.