{"conversationCode":"213-015","tapeNumber":213,"conversationNumber":15,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-213-015","startDateTime":"1972-09-24T14:03:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-24T15:37:00.000Z","startDate":"24-Sep-1972","startTime":"10:03 AM","endDate":"24-Sep-1972","endTime":"11:37 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Camp David Operator;","description":"On September 24, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:03 am and 11:37 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 213-015 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 213-15\n\nDate: September 24, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:03 am and 11:37 am\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation no. 154-6]","filename":["213-015.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"213-014","nextCode":"213-016","transcript":[{"start":2.09,"end":3.27,"text":"Dr. Kissinger."},{"start":3.29,"end":4.18,"text":"Kissinger, please."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiates a brief request to be connected with his National Security Advisor, Henry Kissinger. The exchange serves solely as a logistical communication with the Camp David operator to facilitate this high-level contact. No substantive policy discussions or decisions are recorded during this brief administrative interaction.","topics":["Henry Kissinger","White House communications","administrative logistics","National Security Advisor"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:31:42.219Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-kissinger","white-house-communications","administrative-logistics","national-security-advisor"],"audioDurationSec":9,"audioFiles":[{"file":"213-015.mp3","bytes":209396,"durationSec":8.67,"bitrate":193288,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.204Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/213-015.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/213-015","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/213/conversation-213-015","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}