{"conversationCode":"214-004","tapeNumber":214,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-214-004","startDateTime":"1972-09-30T18:42:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-09-30T18:45:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Sep-1972","startTime":"2:42 PM","endDate":"30-Sep-1972","endTime":"2:45 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On September 30, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 2:42 pm to 2:45 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 214-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 214-4\n\nDate: September 30, 1972\nTime: 2:42 pm - 2:45 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n[See Conversation No. 145-5; one item has been withdrawn]","filename":["214-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"214-003","nextCode":"214-005","transcript":[{"start":3.1,"end":23.06,"text":"I'd like to have a talk with John Connolly, and if he'd like to bring Rich in."},{"start":23.08,"end":24.06,"text":"I'd like to see him separately early in the week."},{"start":24.08,"end":25.45,"text":"I think it's important to keep a separate dialogue going there, too."},{"start":25.46,"end":27.83,"text":"And also, it's useful for me to talk to him about the other thing, President."},{"start":27.85,"end":29.87,"text":"So if you would just let John know today that, after he's done his take,"},{"start":31.32,"end":45.91,"text":"so that doesn't interfere with his training."},{"start":45.92,"end":47.77,"text":"He's doing that monthly, isn't he?"},{"start":47.79,"end":47.91,"text":"Right."},{"start":47.93,"end":48.53,"text":"So we can do that on Tuesdays."},{"start":48.55,"end":48.67,"text":"Right."},{"start":48.69,"end":49.53,"text":"If he wants, or without me, if he prefers."},{"start":49.55,"end":51.3,"text":"But I just want to talk about the general, his own plans and so forth, what he's doing."},{"start":51.31,"end":51.44,"text":"Right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman coordinate a future meeting with John Connally to discuss his personal plans and future political alignment. Nixon requests that this dialogue remain separate from other scheduled commitments to ensure Connally’s ongoing training remains unaffected. Haldeman is tasked with notifying Connally to arrange the session for early in the upcoming week.","topics":["John Connally","Political Strategy","Scheduling","White House Personnel","Administration Planning"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:33:55.066Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-connally","political-strategy","scheduling","white-house-personnel","administration-planning"],"audioDurationSec":67,"audioFiles":[{"file":"214-004.mp3","bytes":1601200,"durationSec":66.64,"bitrate":192220,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.204Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/214-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/214-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/214/conversation-214-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}