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Rita? Hi, what time did you get home?"},{"start":13,"end":18,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Oh. It was okay, though, huh? Good."},{"start":20,"end":25,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Oh, I got up there about 7:15. Yeah."},{"start":27,"end":40,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Yes, I do. Are you getting rested? Good. Well, I just want to thank you again for going with me. It was so great. You really made it the trip nice and [snort]"},{"start":41,"end":46,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"mother enjoyed seeing the pamphlet. She laughed and laughed. What did your husband think? Did he laugh?"},{"start":48,"end":63,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Oh, that's great. Um Rita, you were right about going with Mother on Wednesday. And she'd like you to come at 10:00 on Tuesday and do both you and me Tuesday."},{"start":65,"end":72,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"No, Tuesday would be great. And then she wants you to travel with her on Wednesday and maybe spend Wednesday night in New York."},{"start":76,"end":80,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Good. At 10:00 on Tuesday would be great. Good."},{"start":85,"end":90,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Um I left it in the other suitcase by accident, so I'll I'll do them on Monday."},{"start":93,"end":94,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Yeah."},{"start":95,"end":100,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"You really made it fun. I just love being with you, I can't tell you."},{"start":101,"end":104,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Good. We'll do it again, okay? Good."},{"start":105,"end":111,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"Okay. Well, we'll see you on Tuesday then, and have a nice rest now. Okay."},{"start":112,"end":116,"speaker":"Eisenhower","text":"All right, thank you, Rita. 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