{"conversationCode":"214-021","tapeNumber":214,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-214-021","startDateTime":"1972-10-02T20:06:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-02T20:59:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Oct-1972","startTime":"4:06 PM","endDate":"2-Oct-1972","endTime":"4:59 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On October 2, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 4:06 pm and 4:59 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 214-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 214-21\n\nDate: October 2, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 4:06 pm and 4:59 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n[See Conversation No. 145-11; two items have been withdrawn from the conversation]","filename":["214-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"214-020","nextCode":"214-022","transcript":[{"start":14.44,"end":19.17,"text":"do it, but I'm not sure."},{"start":20.17,"end":29.08,"text":"He said Herb Klein wants me to do a reception for newspaper editors or something like that, National Newspaper Association."},{"start":29.1,"end":35.09,"text":"Let me just say, would you personally have it checked by somebody to see whether I really didn't do it before?"},{"start":35.71,"end":36.17,"text":"You know, I did."},{"start":36.39,"end":41.99,"text":"I stood there two hours and a half off and met all those ASME people, and I don't want to repeat them."},{"start":42.01,"end":43.02,"text":"And Herb, you know, has followed that up"},{"start":47.85,"end":54.19,"text":"You don't know whether that's been checked or not."},{"start":54.33,"end":63.56,"text":"You see, ASNE is not just big papers."},{"start":63.68,"end":68.89,"text":"As a matter of fact, it's mainly small papers."},{"start":68.91,"end":71.72,"text":"And I think that you've just got to take a damn hard look at this."},{"start":76.19,"end":82.05,"text":"The thing to do is to rather than have me stand there shaking their hands, let Pat go."},{"start":83.07,"end":86.97,"text":"She doesn't mind."},{"start":86.99,"end":87.43,"text":"I like her doing this."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman discussed the logistics of an upcoming National Newspaper Association reception proposed by Herb Klein. Nixon expressed frustration over the potential redundancy of the event, noting his previous time-consuming engagements with similar organizations like the ASNE. He ultimately decided that First Lady Pat Nixon should attend the reception in his place to manage his schedule more efficiently.","topics":["Richard Nixon","H. R. Haldeman","Public Relations","Scheduling","Pat Nixon","National Newspaper Association"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:35:27.343Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-nixon","h-r-haldeman","public-relations","scheduling","pat-nixon","national-newspaper-association"],"audioDurationSec":102,"audioFiles":[{"file":"214-021.mp3","bytes":2448821,"durationSec":101.96,"bitrate":192139,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:35.865Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/214-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/214-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/214/conversation-214-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}