{"conversationCode":"214-025","tapeNumber":214,"conversationNumber":25,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-214-025","startDateTime":"1972-10-02T21:03:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-03T00:30:00.000Z","startDate":"2-Oct-1972","startTime":"5:03 PM","endDate":"2-Oct-1972","endTime":"8:30 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Kissinger, Henry A.; Camp David Operator;","description":"On October 2, 1972, Henry A. Kissinger and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:03 pm and 8:30 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 214-025 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 214-25\n\nDate: October 2, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 5:03 pm and 8:30 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nHenry A. Kissinger talked with the Camp David operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 145-15]","filename":["214-025.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Kissinger, Henry A.","Camp David Operator"],"prevCode":"214-024","nextCode":"214-026","transcript":[{"start":0.55,"end":14.91,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":14.93,"end":15.37,"text":"Yes."},{"start":15.39,"end":22.04,"text":"When Admiral Zumwalt comes in, I have it put into Aspen, and I'll get one of the aides to call me."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry Kissinger provides instructions to the Camp David operator regarding the arrival of Admiral Elmo Zumwalt. He specifies that he is to be notified by an aide immediately upon the Admiral's arrival at the Aspen Lodge. This logistical coordination ensures Kissinger is alerted as soon as his guest is ready for their meeting.","topics":["Henry Kissinger","Elmo Zumwalt","Logistics","Camp David","Scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:35:48.806Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-kissinger","elmo-zumwalt","logistics","camp-david","scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":28,"audioFiles":[{"file":"214-025.mp3","bytes":663927,"durationSec":27.6,"bitrate":192442,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:35.865Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/214-025.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/214-025","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/214/conversation-214-025","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}