Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 215-003
Date: Tuesday, October 3, 1972 at 7:19 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Eisenhower, Julie Nixon
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/215-003
National Archives Catalog: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/651228670 (NAID 651228670)

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[0:00] NIXON: Oh, I guess, I'll step near there.
[0:04] NIXON: No, no, no. No, tomorrow, I meant, uh. You're going over to Indianapolis and then onto, uh,
[0:18] NIXON: going to, uh, New England States. Everything's very good up there, we're very strong in Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. Still, it would be good to
[0:32] NIXON: uh, that'd be pretty good, yeah. Good.
[0:37] NIXON: Right. Right. Uh-huh. Good.
[0:47] NIXON: What kind, of speeches maybe or news, I don't know which, but, uh,
[0:54] NIXON: No, for the reason that if I do, uh, it gives him the same equal time on television, which he can't otherwise get. But I'll, so I want to give him, uh, if I do it, I'm going to do it so he doesn't get equal time, you see.
[1:09] NIXON: Well, I had a conference, but not on television. See, if you have it on television, honey, then you get, then you have three networks and he gets three networks all at once, which gives him a big audience, so to hell with him. So, I'm going to do it, I'm on my own. I'll I'll find a way.
[1:24] NIXON: Well, It's, uh, well, you know the old saying is, but, uh,
[1:41] NIXON: I've been there, I usually, uh, always, uh- Are you going to speak before uh, are you going to? Well, that I, uh, that I've traditionally always, uh, did when I was Vice President, always open and pressed, opened the campaign in the great square there, in Indianapolis.
[1:57] NIXON: Also, speak very highly of Lugar, the Mayor, you know, one of outstanding mayors in the country. He's Second in nomination. And, uh, that, uh, Indiana is famous for its political traditions, and I always felt that, uh,
[2:15] NIXON: my mother from Indiana, my father from Ohio, that was a good combination for anybody wanted to enter politics, and mine did.
[2:23] NIXON: Maine? New Hampshire. You mention the primaries. This is our, this is always been our, a state that's always been very good to us, and, uh, and in fact, we know that probably it was the safety, because of that. Always came through.
[2:42] NIXON: Vermont, uh, you went to camp there, right? Wasn't that in Vermont? We went, you went to camp there and you have a special place in your heart for it, and it's uh, it's certainly [unintelligible]
[2:58] NIXON: one of the most beautiful states in the country. In Maine, we're fond of Kennebunkport for the beach. We also were up there that, at the Trylon Island once and, uh, we, uh, hope as Maine goes, so goes the nation. Yeah. Okay. I see.
[3:17] NIXON: Didn't happen last time, but it will this time.
[3:20] NIXON: Okay, sweet. Oh, it was great. It's 91.
[3:23] NIXON: 91. That's great. I sure did.
[3:28] NIXON: Right, and we just wish you the best, send you trips, dear. Bye. Bye.