{"conversationCode":"217-004","tapeNumber":217,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-217-004","startDateTime":"1972-10-07T00:32:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-07T00:35:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Oct-1972","startTime":"8:32 PM","endDate":"6-Oct-1972","endTime":"8:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On October 6, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 8:32 pm to 8:35 pm. 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(President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"217-003","nextCode":"217-005","transcript":[{"start":0.34,"end":2.09,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":2.11,"end":2.21,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":34.46,"end":60.45,"text":"Well, mainly, mainly just the other gear."},{"start":60.47,"end":60.88,"text":"And, uh... And, uh..."},{"start":61.76,"end":81.51,"text":"Don't, and just tell us later we won't have it until, what time do they have it scheduled for?"},{"start":81.53,"end":82.21,"text":"Well, we won't have it until then."},{"start":82.23,"end":82.93,"text":"Because it would take me that long."},{"start":82.95,"end":83.73,"text":"I'll just have to do it in the morning."},{"start":83.75,"end":84.07,"text":"We have now 835."},{"start":98.34,"end":100.11,"text":"I don't want to see any until I see them all."},{"start":100.99,"end":112.34,"text":"So, uh, when do we expect her to come in?"},{"start":113.16,"end":113.28,"text":"Right."},{"start":114.78,"end":115.82,"text":"Fine, fine."},{"start":115.84,"end":118.55,"text":"I'll tell you what we'll do."},{"start":118.57,"end":119.73,"text":"Why don't you just hold them all?"},{"start":119.77,"end":121.97,"text":"I don't know why he's doing two versions, but whatever he's doing, get them done."},{"start":122.31,"end":127.3,"text":"I have one here that's already sent."},{"start":127.32,"end":128.1,"text":"And, uh, we can, uh, have them get, uh,"},{"start":128.91,"end":151.09,"text":"And as soon as we heard the memorandum of erection, we just fired them over here."},{"start":151.11,"end":151.45,"text":"There's no hurry."},{"start":151.47,"end":151.81,"text":"There's no hurry."},{"start":151.83,"end":152.67,"text":"And then I'll look at them in the morning."},{"start":152.69,"end":153.13,"text":"And I'll work on them."},{"start":153.15,"end":154.57,"text":"Start them by 8.30 in the morning and try to finish them by 11 o'clock."},{"start":154.59,"end":155.75,"text":"And they aren't going to have it tonight, that's for sure."},{"start":155.77,"end":156.23,"text":"This is very realistic."},{"start":156.25,"end":157.52,"text":"It's like, I just didn't do too much work on the goddamn thing."},{"start":157.54,"end":158.78,"text":"But I don't want to look at three different versions"},{"start":161.1,"end":175.52,"text":"All in."},{"start":175.54,"end":176.08,"text":"All in."},{"start":176.1,"end":176.36,"text":"Send it over."},{"start":176.38,"end":177.31,"text":"Don't send anything in until everything is in."},{"start":177.32,"end":177.76,"text":"I have some with luck."},{"start":177.78,"end":178.29,"text":"We are on 10 o'clock now."},{"start":178.31,"end":178.61,"text":"Send them over."},{"start":178.63,"end":179.89,"text":"I don't expect anything from you until about 11 in the morning."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield coordinated the delivery and review of pending documents and administrative materials. Seeking to avoid reviewing fragmented drafts, the President instructed Butterfield to withhold all versions until they could be submitted together as a complete set. Nixon finalized a plan to review the collective materials the following morning between 8:30 and 11:00 am.","topics":["Administrative Coordination","Document Management","White House Procedures","Executive Workflow"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:38:30.294Z"},"topicSlugs":["administrative-coordination","document-management","white-house-procedures","executive-workflow"],"audioDurationSec":185,"audioFiles":[{"file":"217-004.mp3","bytes":4444368,"durationSec":185.11,"bitrate":192078,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.204Z","transcriptGapSeconds":68,"transcriptGapShare":0.37,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/217-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/217-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/217/conversation-217-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}