{"conversationCode":"217-008","tapeNumber":217,"conversationNumber":8,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-217-008","startDateTime":"1972-10-07T01:00:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-07T14:16:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Oct-1972","startTime":"9:00 PM","endDate":"7-Oct-1972","endTime":"10:16 AM","dateCertainty":"estimated","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan);","description":"President Richard M. Nixon and Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 9:00 pm on October 6, 1972 and 10:16 am on October 7, 1972. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 217-008 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 217-8\n\nDate: Unknown between October 6 and 7, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 9:00 pm, October 6 and 10:16 am, October 7, 1972\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with Thelma C. (\"Pat\") Nixon.\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal returnable]\n[Duration: 16s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nMrs. Nixon left at an unknown time before 10:16 am, October 7, 1972.","filename":["217-008.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)"],"prevCode":"217-007","nextCode":"217-009","transcript":[{"start":12.5,"end":12.88,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard Nixon met with First Lady Pat Nixon in the Aspen Lodge at Camp David to discuss personal matters. The brief interaction, lasting only 16 seconds, was classified as a personal returnable item and contains no recorded substantive policy discussions. Consequently, no official decisions or administrative actions resulted from this exchange.","topics":["Pat Nixon","Camp David","Personal matters","White House Tapes"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:38:51.900Z"},"topicSlugs":["pat-nixon","camp-david","personal-matters","white-house-tapes"],"audioDurationSec":13,"audioFiles":[{"file":"217-008.mp3","bytes":309706,"durationSec":12.84,"bitrate":192963,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:35.865Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:05.725Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/217-008.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/217-008","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/217/conversation-217-008","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}