Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 217-014
Date: Saturday, October 7, 1972 at 10:16 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/217-014

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[0:00] Yeah.
[0:02] I want you to know that we're doing a few odds and ends here.
[0:07] I probably won't have this textbook very close to about 11.30.
[0:14] Oh, that's really soon enough, isn't it?
[0:19] I'll have it ready probably by 11 or 11.30 if that'll help you.
[0:28] What she can't do, of course, as soon as I finish it, is to tell her to sit down there, and then you've got to get her to give you an hour or two earlier.
[0:43] Whatever you like.
[0:44] Fine.
[0:44] Fine.
[0:44] Well, they didn't rush.
[0:45] Well, I'm not rushing that.
[0:46] Just the fact that they didn't get the text in the last night.
[0:54] It's coming up.
[0:55] Right.
[0:57] Right.
[0:57] Right.
[0:57] Right.
[0:58] Okay.
[0:59] There really isn't a hell of a lot of news in our ground.
[1:12] It's mainly just a pitch for the spent.
[1:13] But on the other hand... Yeah.
[1:18] Yeah.
[1:19] The main thing is they must not get the impression we're going to put our tax reform thing out.
[1:21] We're not now.
[1:21] I refer again to property taxes.
[1:22] I don't say we're going to do it, but I guess we're going to do it.
[1:23] Otherwise, that's fine.
[1:25] It never continues.
[1:45] It's rather wild swings.
[1:46] It's about, you know, the guys who come out and do the damn ridiculous and some of the stuff.
[1:48] First, it's the most corrupt.
[1:48] Then it's the most vegan.
[1:49] Then it's the most deceitful.
[1:49] Then it's the worst.
[1:50] But what was it today?
[1:50] What was it?
[1:50] I don't know.
[1:51] I don't know.
[1:51] I don't know.
[1:53] I don't know, I forgot what it was, but just one a day, that's probably their policy.
[2:08] I certainly think I am right, though.
[2:11] It doesn't, of course, impress a lot of people because they like doing things in Knoxville, but on the other hand, it's got to turn off some of the people.
[2:16] That's my view of things.
[2:17] In other words, I think it's all like Potter Group's concern is that it does turn off people.
[2:19] That's my worry.
[2:23] That's the one I remember today.
[2:29] Yeah, about the OS and everything.
[2:30] That was great though for him to talk about amnesty.
[2:31] God almighty, I love that.
[2:39] Yeah, yeah.
[2:39] Yeah.
[2:39] They wonder what you're doing.
[2:50] Yeah.
[2:51] Yeah.
[2:51] Yeah.
[2:59] as sort of an effeminate type.
[3:01] And the effeminate type does not attack well because he sounds like a sort of a truish woman.
[3:08] Really, that's true.
[3:16] And no flexibility in it, no up and down.
[3:26] Really?
[3:38] Did he say they had my government already?
[3:45] I really want to know the truth.
[3:47] He wants to level with us, we might do this program, but I'm not going to get trapped.
[4:01] I agree.
[4:06] I agree.
[4:08] Go on, second.
[4:25] He understands that.
[4:26] Because also I'm busy with the conquest.
[4:34] And then they can't, if you make the point that you couldn't pick excerpts from one of those debates, that's the thing I would not do.
[4:50] You made the point that the other networks, how do you think we could get around that?
[5:05] All right, well, we'll think about it.
[5:27] He's having health, of course, if they put his on right now.
[5:31] And we do ours the last week.
[5:32] That's what I have in mind.
[5:41] The only way I would do it would be to do it last week in the basement.
[6:03] I'm too busy before that.
[6:04] By the way, it's interesting.
[6:05] It should break out other networks that do things with an activist.
[6:06] Why not?
[6:06] We aren't going to give that one anyway.
[6:07] And we could tell Smith that we'd give him the first thing afterwards.
[6:08] Are you ready to tell him?
[6:10] If that team could have the first crack that we're going to do.
[6:23] One-on-one isn't a bad idea anyway.
[6:27] Good.
[6:27] All right.
[6:29] He knows.
[6:29] You don't think he's already talking to the government?
[6:38] I don't know that we were looking at all the facts.
[7:04] Great.
[7:05] Oh, that's fine.
[7:05] That's right.
[7:06] I got the word.
[7:08] I got the word.
[7:08] Oh, that's fine.
[7:12] I don't do it.
[7:14] Well, I think on balance that despite our I was talking to Colson about this later.
[7:24] I think that we may tend to have been a little bit too rough in terms of evaluating the office and what the TV does.
[7:37] If you don't let them do it live, they aren't going to do it live a lot because they're going to give you a couple of hooks.
[7:40] But the point is, if you look at the whole man thing, it certainly gave us a pretty dominant disposition on some things that you might, and I can't complain about that.
[7:55] And on that, and also, it is very good with the columnist and the rest.
[8:00] I mean, they're kind of, I mean, when they're flying around, I mean, when you add one of these things to it now for a couple of weeks, they won't say anything about not seeing them.
[8:05] Right?
[8:08] All right.
[8:10] I know.
[8:22] Yeah.
[8:22] Yeah.
[8:22] Yeah.
[8:23] The experts, the experts now have some, they like to be there.
[8:25] Okay, Rob.
[8:25] Bye.
[8:26] Bye.
[8:26] Oh, Rob.