{"conversationCode":"217-021","tapeNumber":217,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-217-021","startDateTime":"1972-10-07T14:28:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-07T15:55:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Oct-1972","startTime":"10:28 AM","endDate":"7-Oct-1972","endTime":"11:55 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary; [Unknown person(s)];","description":"On October 7, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:28 am and 11:55 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 217-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 217-21\n\nDate: October 7, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 10:28 am and 11:55 am\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with Rose Mary Woods.\n\n        Draft of radio speech on Federal spending, October 7, 1972\n            -Insurance\n                 -Word choice\n                      -Unknown person\n                          -Raymond K. Price, Jr.\n\n        Office preparation for broadcast\n\n        Set-up in Laurel Lodge\n\nAn unknown man entered at an unknown time after 10:28 am.\n\n        The President's schedule\n\nThe unknown man left at an unknown time before 11:55 am.\n\n        Speech draft\n            -Offer to carry\n\nThe President and Woods left at 11:55 am.","filename":["217-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary","[Unknown person(s)]"],"prevCode":"217-020","nextCode":"217-022","transcript":[{"start":0.4,"end":5.75,"text":"Well, how about ironclad insurance?"},{"start":5.77,"end":6.91,"text":"No?"},{"start":8.29,"end":8.39,"text":"Okay."},{"start":8.41,"end":26.82,"text":"The fellow who did it and who knows the insurance, Ray Clinton, reached out to them, but we..."},{"start":31.15,"end":47.43,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":51.48,"end":57.53,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":71.02,"end":92.25,"text":"You have to tag up, and it is set up in your office account."},{"start":92.28,"end":98.69,"text":"Laura."},{"start":104.33,"end":128.35,"text":"I love you."},{"start":144.56,"end":161.49,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Rose Mary Woods met at Camp David to finalize the language and logistics for a radio speech regarding federal spending. The discussion focused on refining word choice, specifically concerning insurance-related terminology, while coordinating the broadcast setup in Laurel Lodge. An unknown aide assisted in the speech preparation and scheduling before the President and Woods concluded their session.","topics":["Federal spending","Radio speech","Speechwriting","Camp David","Logistics","Broadcast preparations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:40:03.542Z"},"topicSlugs":["federal-spending","radio-speech","speechwriting","camp-david","logistics","broadcast-preparations"],"audioDurationSec":168,"audioFiles":[{"file":"217-021.mp3","bytes":4036857,"durationSec":168.13,"bitrate":192078,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.204Z","transcriptGapSeconds":97,"transcriptGapShare":0.58,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/217-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/217-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/217/conversation-217-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}