{"conversationCode":"219-005","tapeNumber":219,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-219-005","startDateTime":"1972-10-11T00:16:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-11T00:20:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Oct-1972","startTime":"8:16 PM","endDate":"10-Oct-1972","endTime":"8:20 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On October 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 8:16 pm to 8:20 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 219-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 219-5\n\nDate: October 10, 1972\nTime: 8:16 pm - 8:20 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nH.R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 148-3]","filename":["219-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"219-004","nextCode":"219-006","transcript":[{"start":3.91,"end":4.41,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.43,"end":11.74,"text":"1 to 163."},{"start":12.16,"end":15.37,"text":"Damn good."},{"start":40.26,"end":45.43,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":45.65,"end":51.11,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":55.54,"end":56.4,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":58.34,"end":59,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":59.46,"end":60.22,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":61.24,"end":62.61,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":69.5,"end":75.23,"text":"That's right, that's right."},{"start":75.25,"end":76,"text":"9 o'clock is good."},{"start":76.02,"end":87.27,"text":"That gives them plenty of time."},{"start":87.29,"end":87.99,"text":"Right."},{"start":88.01,"end":90.34,"text":"I know, I know."},{"start":90.36,"end":95.67,"text":"Well, what he knows is if I screw it up, the minister shows me a spot, really."},{"start":103.31,"end":104.83,"text":"I was going to get it too low."},{"start":104.91,"end":107.68,"text":"You got a clutch."},{"start":107.7,"end":110.1,"text":"See, that's the problem."},{"start":110.7,"end":110.92,"text":"Well, good."},{"start":110.94,"end":111.56,"text":"It's worth it."},{"start":111.59,"end":111.85,"text":"Worth it."},{"start":111.99,"end":116.18,"text":"Worth it."},{"start":116.2,"end":116.3,"text":"Nice."},{"start":116.32,"end":116.62,"text":"You can see it."},{"start":117.82,"end":118.6,"text":"There you go."},{"start":118.62,"end":118.82,"text":"All right."},{"start":119.7,"end":121.99,"text":"It's very responsible to kind of do policies right."},{"start":133.63,"end":159.23,"text":"Alright, bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard Nixon and H.R. Haldeman met briefly at Camp David to coordinate logistics for a scheduled event or policy briefing. The discussion focused on confirming a 9:00 a.m. start time to ensure participants had sufficient preparation. The pair concluded the brief exchange by confirming the necessity and value of the upcoming meeting.","topics":["Scheduling","Logistics","White House Operations","Policy Planning"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:41:41.506Z"},"topicSlugs":["scheduling","logistics","white-house-operations","policy-planning"],"audioDurationSec":162,"audioFiles":[{"file":"219-005.mp3","bytes":3893915,"durationSec":162.19,"bitrate":192070,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.204Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/219-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/219-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/219/conversation-219-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}