Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 219-008
Date: Tuesday, October 10, 1972 at 8:24 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/219-008

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[0:00] So, I was trying to get Wilbur Mills, but I, uh, you heard we got the vote in the House.
[0:08] Oh, it was 221 to 163, and he's not on the victory.
[0:13] So, that's what you see.
[0:14] That's what the Spurs have done.
[0:17] I'm going to speak to the Spurs on Thursday morning to get them on the ass again.
[0:20] They won't pass it, but nevertheless, we still have a chance.
[0:31] But we'll try to put it in terms of fighting to keep taxes down and spending down and prices down and so forth.
[0:42] Not at all.
[0:45] We've got to put it in terms of this is a vote against high taxes.
[0:49] That's what we're doing.
[0:50] If you call a few people and want to comment, this is a vote against high taxes.
[0:55] The Senate should now vote against high taxes.
[0:58] The whole life, John.
[1:00] And then when you talked to me earlier, I had...
[1:03] I heard you one little flippin' and then you kind of said that asshole Shriver dude.
[1:08] Dude, dude, dude.
[1:09] And I... Oh, for Christ's sake!
[1:13] That's enough to piss the whole thing right off.
[1:21] It doesn't make it... Not that many thoughts.
[1:24] But the main point is that...
[1:26] Our people should really mind that you want to pull a communist government.
[1:32] That's the German study.
[1:34] He's not talking about it.
[1:35] He wants to have nothing to do with it.
[1:37] He's to beg for the release of our people.
[1:42] He's no alternative.
[1:43] And it's a complete surrender, defeat.
[1:57] If I remember correctly, what about those four hundred, four million and a half poor bachelors who didn't have any great parents and the rest who didn't go to college and didn't bug out?
[2:08] What about the 50,000 who lost their poor lives?
[2:12] Oh, I think, I just hope we get, I think somebody's going to get, how about getting six minutes to take them off?
[2:44] Here it is.
[2:51] All right.
[2:53] Well, basically, here, this fallen animal has crossed the crossroad.
[2:56] Here's the picture of it.
[2:57] He knows he's not there, you know, looking to incite the terror.
[3:01] And this really is a saboteur of the negotiations.
[3:05] I mean, if I were the enemy, I'd just fold up the whole thing in the long distance, right?
[3:14] I'll give you a little play.
[3:53] Sure, that doesn't make a difference much, does it?
[4:46] I just think this, though, and don't let the domestic counsel crowd drive off this.
[4:52] I want to slaughter him on this one.
[4:56] They really have to go after him as being, you know, this job.
[5:00] It'll help solidify the labor support.
[5:03] And don't get the view that this is going to raise the Vietnam issue.
[5:05] Harris would disagree on this, but Harris is wrong.
[5:07] It has to be wrong.
[5:17] Yes, but I mean, but Harris basically, his constituency is wrong in this issue.
[5:22] You know what I mean?
[5:24] The Jew is right.
[5:25] But God damn it, we really ought to hit this.
[5:40] Right?
[5:42] We hit this.
[5:43] God damn it, we have to make some business.
[6:17] Mendez-France, who was the cellar artist of the first watercolor culture.
[6:26] We didn't say Mendez-France was a disaster for France.
[6:39] Well, I can understand.
[6:41] Don't let anybody drive you up there.
[6:43] I know that you'll get to eat in the morning.
[6:47] I don't know who from, but just say, I decided, as a matter of moral principle, we've got to make this an issue.
[6:55] And he went right out of it.
[7:00] That's the most important.
[7:04] He was told as a communist, surrender to the communists, raising the white flag, and also, how you're going to abuse
[7:11] All you have as a POW is to have these withdrawal forces quit the bombing.
[7:17] All you've got is to go pay the back.
[7:19] And there are still 15,000 French enemies that have never been accounted for.
[7:25] Hopefully.
[7:28] Oh, and make sure that Mel knows that a Frenchman like a Filipino is an American, right?
[7:35] So is it South Vietnamese or an Argentinian American?
[7:37] I mean a Frenchman.
[8:06] In amnesty, in POWs, that he would abandon our POWs.
[8:11] He would have, I mean, when they enjoyed any concerns, POWs, after exploiting the tree that they have in a shameful way, how does that leave that, the future of our POWs, these barbarians?
[8:27] And then he goes on, amnesty, POWs, and imposing a communist government in South Vietnam, and defeat.
[8:44] Well, I must say that the, uh, the whole thing is, uh, now that it's, uh, he's just dead wrong in this thing.
[9:03] And he's just, for that whole reason, it's hard to go on about one section of the end of it because it's unbelievable.
[9:05] I didn't write that deliberately.
[9:06] I just think he may say mine.
[9:15] You put a few people on hand, and they all come up, alerting the DFW people to go on there.
[9:49] Let's burn his ass on that.
[9:55] 450.
[9:55] 4,500,000 Americans served during the Vietnam War.
[9:59] Their country.
[10:00] And he wants to take a few hundred that ran to Canada and let them come home and do what they can, please.
[10:06] Well, they're not going to come back.
[10:23] I would think that on this, I could get a whole lot more money.
[10:34] Me and you on it, right?
[10:35] You think you might?
[10:41] You really should.
[11:38] Okay.
[11:40] What else is there that ain't out there tonight?
[12:05] Make sure to do that.
[12:12] We are, we are continuing to sing with another leader.
[13:02] Thank you.