{"conversationCode":"219-012","tapeNumber":219,"conversationNumber":12,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-219-012","startDateTime":"1972-10-11T00:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-11T00:55:00.000Z","startDate":"10-Oct-1972","startTime":"8:52 PM","endDate":"10-Oct-1972","endTime":"8:55 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Byrnes, John W.;","description":"On October 10, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John W. Byrnes met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 8:52 pm to 8:55 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 219-012 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 219-12\nDate: October 10, 1972\nTime: 8:52 pm - 8:55 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with John W. Byrnes.\n\n[See Conversation No. 148-10]","filename":["219-012.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Byrnes, John W."],"prevCode":"219-011","nextCode":"219-013","transcript":[{"start":7.17,"end":9.75,"text":"Well, I just wanted to thank you for a great job you did today."},{"start":11.05,"end":12.2,"text":"That was a hell of a vote."},{"start":14.58,"end":16.16,"text":"And, uh, right."},{"start":16.18,"end":31.86,"text":"I'm going to, uh, have in the, uh, senators, uh, you know, the Republican senators at least, Thursday morning at 9 o'clock."},{"start":32.67,"end":33.17,"text":"And, uh, you know... Huh?"},{"start":33.19,"end":34.75,"text":"Oh, I will."},{"start":34.77,"end":37.09,"text":"Now, uh, will, uh, you have any guidance as to what we ought to do?"},{"start":37.39,"end":44.32,"text":"Tell him to let us know and I'll have him there at 9 o'clock and work him over."},{"start":44.34,"end":47.65,"text":"Tell him that this is a matter of the people that are going to be in that conference."},{"start":47.67,"end":48.67,"text":"They better damn well stand up."},{"start":52.92,"end":58.21,"text":"Yeah, you can do that, can't you?"},{"start":59.55,"end":59.95,"text":"Yeah, I see."},{"start":60.05,"end":60.53,"text":"It's what you've got."},{"start":75.95,"end":78.33,"text":"He's pushing hard over there."},{"start":78.36,"end":84.2,"text":"He ought to be able to get 35, 40 volts, I think."},{"start":84.52,"end":84.74,"text":"All right."},{"start":84.76,"end":85.34,"text":"I got the message."},{"start":86.21,"end":91.95,"text":"And we'll let it cool today, and then 9 o'clock Thursday morning, I'll put her into the fire."},{"start":91.97,"end":92.17,"text":"Okay."},{"start":93.22,"end":93.42,"text":"All right."},{"start":93.48,"end":93.98,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with Representative John W. Byrnes to express appreciation for a successful legislative vote and to coordinate strategy for an upcoming meeting with Republican senators. The President directed Byrnes to pressure holdouts to ensure party unity ahead of a critical conference, emphasizing the need for lawmakers to stand firm. They agreed to hold a session on Thursday morning to formalize this legislative push and secure necessary support.","topics":["Legislative Strategy","Republican Party","Congressional Relations","Political Whipping","Policy Conference"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:42:20.083Z"},"topicSlugs":["legislative-strategy","republican-party","congressional-relations","political-whipping","policy-conference"],"audioDurationSec":101,"audioFiles":[{"file":"219-012.mp3","bytes":2422490,"durationSec":100.87,"bitrate":192134,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:35.865Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/219-012.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/219-012","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/219/conversation-219-012","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}