Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 220-014
Date: Sunday, October 15, 1972 at 11:07 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.
Recording device: Camp David Hard Wire
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/220-014

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[0:00] I must say that the going through the
[0:14] from pages of the Times and the Post, and I'm just glad they don't affect the country that much.
[0:31] My God, that Post story was, I mean, you talk about hearsay, you know, and somebody told this and all that, and he saw the God Almighty.
[0:34] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[0:35] It's incredible.
[0:35] I told Paul, I said, don't let everybody worry about it.
[0:36] You can't do a thing about it.
[0:37] Don't you agree?
[0:41] Time is also going to use it, so time magazine and so on, you know, that's fine.
[1:00] That means that time doesn't have to go to the extent.
[1:07] It'll get arrived for two or three days.
[1:08] That's right.
[1:08] Yeah.
[1:08] Yeah.
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[1:09] Right.
[1:11] Maybe that's just as well.
[1:33] In a way, then they have to write about it, don't they?
[1:35] Those aren't people that want me to get out of Camp Van.
[1:36] Let's face it, they're concerned about the fact that they now get a chance to override the water veto.
[1:38] I don't know if that's too bad either.
[1:39] I mean, if they override a veto, they override a veto.
[1:40] That's all.
[1:41] Make the case and then it's Congress against the President.
[2:02] It's a possibility.
[2:02] It is a possibility.
[2:03] If the Republicans are smart, then they just don't bother coming back.
[2:04] They don't get a quorum.
[2:05] Well, that's the strategy.
[2:05] In other words, if the Republicans come back, they're on the spot and have control over the President.
[2:07] If they're not back, they don't get blamed for not being back.
[2:09] If there's no quorum, there's no hope.
[2:09] Exactly.
[2:12] What'd Bill say?
[2:27] I think they're on the farm.
[2:34] Sustaining of each other's interests.
[2:36] Is Bill exempt?
[2:40] Not really.
[2:40] All right.
[2:41] At least, in a sense, Chuck is a good reason for me to be around, and I, and I would love to hold out for him Friday, and then there's terrorism.
[3:03] It's going to be, you know, I'm, you know, I've told you because of this, it's going to be announced tomorrow, and I'm just working on it today.
[3:06] Learning, of course, let me say to you, because my stage has been learning about forever, sharing the past, and writing a nice, serious story.
[3:09] He invited me to come to Philadelphia and sign the bill there, and to go speak up in the first Congress.
[3:25] So you see there are 50 governors, 500 fighting against, who signed the manned bill.
[3:26] He said, no, I said, it was a conflict, but I'll have 20,000 people that are for Nixon on front of that hall.
[3:31] I had the idea a few days ago and raised it with all of them.
[3:40] And then I was glad to listen about two weeks ago.
[3:41] And then I had vetoed myself because of Shapp.
[3:42] And then I thought, I don't need to worry about Shapp because we're inviting all 50 governors.
[3:45] So I'll just, I'll ride in with Rizzo.
[4:04] In fact, not on a helicopter, as a matter of fact.
[4:05] We'll have to ride a couple blocks, or four or five blocks.
[4:06] So we don't have the problem of building motorcades.
[4:07] We don't want a motorcade.
[4:08] We don't want it to be political.
[4:09] So we'll just come right up here and spend a cell, sign that thing, and we'll be on a hell of a show.
[4:11] It reminds us how to do this, and it starts with you.
[4:12] So I don't care if it's a name.
[4:12] That's right.
[4:13] You see those
[4:42] You couldn't just go the whole week with nothing.
[5:03] I just felt that I was wrong.
[5:04] You know, I had the knowledge of Congressmen and we did work with them for a certain price.
[5:05] But the Philadelphia was perfect.
[5:06] You know, I could go Friday with them and go to a night out with them.
[5:08] Well, I didn't think that we had gone far since we've done that.
[5:09] I had called in my government's radio guy and said, I don't think this is going to work.
[5:11] Well,
[5:12] I saw him, sorry, where he used to walk.
[5:34] He used to come from behind the wall and gradually close the gap.
[5:36] That's the line that's been blocked over so fast.
[5:37] So I was asking him, you know, I'm sure we've got him.
[5:38] He got off the top.
[5:38] He had at least a second chance.
[5:39] He had a second chance.
[5:39] He had a second chance.
[5:40] He had a second chance.
[5:40] He had a second chance.
[5:43] What is the situation?
[6:03] I don't see that you can't go over something.
[6:04] We know it really isn't what they showed us.
[6:05] If they showed us that they want to talk about closing gas, or this kind of thing, our opinion would be more than just fine.
[6:08] It would be 25 or 26, right?
[6:09] Anglowich, or Shakilowich was 40 earlier or something, somewhere, some un-planted, out-landed trigger.
[6:33] He was, like, way, very, very high, but you would never eat that.
[6:34] Anglowich is a weird gentleman, Chuck, because he was over sexual experience.
[6:36] You know, you see, he reported right after the convention and hasn't reported since.
[6:37] So, so, you know, I don't think, you know, he can yell at us more.
[6:41] He was a dead loser.
[7:09] That's what they're trying to get at, aren't they?
[7:10] Okay.
[7:11] Hmm.
[7:34] Hmm.
[7:34] Hmm.
[7:34] Hmm.