{"conversationCode":"221-001","tapeNumber":221,"conversationNumber":1,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-221-001","startDateTime":"1972-10-15T21:20:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-16T00:28:00.000Z","startDate":"15-Oct-1972","startTime":"5:20 PM","endDate":"15-Oct-1972","endTime":"8:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On October 15, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:20 pm and 8:28 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 221-001 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 221-1\n\nDate: October 15, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 5:20 pm and 8:28 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson. This recording began at an unknown time while\nthe conversation was in progress.\n\n[See Conversation No. 150-1; two items have been withdrawn]","filename":["221-001.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"220-020","nextCode":"222-001","transcript":[{"start":11.44,"end":13.35,"text":"Well, oh, no, you shouldn't."},{"start":13.37,"end":15.24,"text":"Oh, Christ, don't listen to these things."},{"start":15.26,"end":16.37,"text":"Read them."},{"start":16.39,"end":18.14,"text":"Read them."},{"start":18.16,"end":18.74,"text":"I never listened to anything."},{"start":18.76,"end":19,"text":"Yeah, right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss their practices regarding the handling of sensitive White House recordings. They touch upon the preference for reviewing written transcripts over listening to audio documentation. This brief exchange reflects the administrative approach to managing the internal records of the Nixon presidency.","topics":["White House Tapes","Record keeping","Administration","Internal documentation"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:45:56.053Z"},"topicSlugs":["white-house-tapes","record-keeping","administration","internal-documentation"],"audioDurationSec":31,"audioFiles":[{"file":"221-001.mp3","bytes":744175,"durationSec":30.95,"bitrate":192376,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.204Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/221-001.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/221-001","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/221/conversation-221-001","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}