Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 223 › Conversation 223-015

Nixon phone call with Haig on Vietnam War negotiations

Sunday, October 22, 1972 · 12:22 AM–12:27 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Conversation223-015 on Tape 223StartSunday, October 22, 1972 at 12:22 AMEndSunday, October 22, 1972 at 12:27 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 223-015 ↗

President Nixon and Alexander Haig held a brief, late-night meeting at Camp David to discuss ongoing negotiations and the potential risks of appearing to withdraw or concede. The two men coordinated their stance on avoiding entanglement in current developments that could negatively impact the administration's political standing. Nixon emphasized that their primary concern regarding the situation was the potential for domestic repercussions rather than immediate external threats.

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I thought that, uh, if you would, uh, you know, I said, if he wants to go there, you know, uh, that's broken.
What did he say?
No, he hasn't been rolling.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, that's good.
Well, since you've taken that, let's see what our thinking is that...
We can't get sucked into this now.
We haven't broken off from each other.
It's better, and that's that.
I mean, it's better because now this thing makes it a whole.
I just want to run home.
You know what?
That's what we do.
The reason I don't want to leave is not because of the goddamn enemy.
The reason I don't want to leave is because it might hurt us.
I don't know how to say that word.
I said cannot be a factor.

On October 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 12:22 am to 12:27 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 223-015 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 223-15

Date: October 22, 1972
Time: 12:22 am – 12:27 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

[See Conversation No. 151-7]
  • 151-006 10:24 PM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 10:24 pm on October 21, 1972 and 12:22 am on October 22, 1972.
  • 223-014 10:24 PM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David on an unknown date, sometime between 10:24 pm on October 21, 1972 and 12:22 am on October 22, 1972.
  • 151-007 12:22 AM · 5 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone at Camp David from 12:22 am to 12:27 am.
  • 151-008 9:45 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:45 am and 9:57 am.
  • 223-016 9:45 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:45 am and 9:57 am.
  • 223-017 9:45 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:45 am and 9:57 am.
  • 151-009 9:57 AM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:57 am to 10:09 am.
  • 223-018 9:57 AM · 3 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:57 am to 10:09 am.

Conversation 223-015, October 22, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/223-015 (accessed October 10, 2026).