Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 223 › Conversation 223-018

Nixon phone call with Haldeman on Political strategy and Public relations

Sunday, October 22, 1972 · 9:57 AM–10:09 AM ET · Camp David Hard Wire · 3 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob")Conversation223-018 on Tape 223StartSunday, October 22, 1972 at 9:57 AMEndSunday, October 22, 1972 at 10:09 AMRecording deviceCamp David Hard WireSourceNixon Library record for 223-018 ↗

President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman met at Camp David to coordinate their departure schedules and discuss concerns regarding an unnamed individual’s overly optimistic perception of current events. Nixon expressed skepticism toward this individual's outlook, noting a tendency to ignore harsh realities. The two agreed on the necessity of collaborating to manage the narrative surrounding an unspecified "hell of a story" involving potential intruders.

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So, I decided I would leave today at 11.30.
I'll leave at 3 o'clock.
I'll leave at 7 o'clock.
I'll leave at 7 o'clock.
Well, not this morning.
Yeah, we just talked to him.
He was doing so-and-so down there.
He was doing so-and-so down there.
He was doing so-and-so down there.
He was doing so-and-so down there.
He was doing so-and-so down there.
He was doing so-and-so down there.
He was doing so-and-so down there.
He was doing so-and-so down there.
and that we
I'm basically more pessimistic because I know how...
He wants to believe what he wants to believe.
The reason for his life, I don't know.
It's just not the right thing that will happen.
I don't know.
I have this one.
It's a hell of a story.
And a lot of people think they're all of us intruders.
I think we need to do it together.
Thank you.

On October 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:57 am to 10:09 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 223-018 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 223-18

Date: October 22, 1972
Time: 9:57 am - 10:09 am
Location: Camp David Hard Wire

The President talked with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

[See Conversation No. 151-9; two items have been withdrawn]
  • 151-008 9:45 AM · 10 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:45 am and 9:57 am.
  • 223-016 9:45 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:45 am and 9:57 am.
  • 223-017 9:45 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 9:45 am and 9:57 am.
  • 151-009 9:57 AM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone at Camp David from 9:57 am to 10:09 am.
  • 151-010 10:09 AM · 9 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator talked on the telephone at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:09 am and 10:10 am.
  • 223-019 10:09 AM · 13 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Camp David operator met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 10:09 am and 10:10 am.
  • 151-011 10:10 AM · 6 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone at Camp David from 10:10 am to 10:16 am.
  • 223-020 10:10 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 10:10 am to 10:16 am.

Conversation 223-018, October 22, 1972. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/223-018 (accessed October 10, 2026).