{"conversationCode":"223-018","tapeNumber":223,"conversationNumber":18,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-223-018","startDateTime":"1972-10-22T13:57:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-10-22T14:09:00.000Z","startDate":"22-Oct-1972","startTime":"9:57 AM","endDate":"22-Oct-1972","endTime":"10:09 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On October 22, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David from 9:57 am to 10:09 am. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 223-018 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":4,"chronRelease":"Fourth Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"10-Dec-2003","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 223-18\n\nDate: October 22, 1972\nTime: 9:57 am - 10:09 am\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President talked with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n[See Conversation No. 151-9; two items have been withdrawn]","filename":["223-018.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"223-017","nextCode":"223-019","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":8.94,"text":"So, I decided I would leave today at 11.30."},{"start":8.96,"end":12.67,"text":"I'll leave at 3 o'clock."},{"start":12.69,"end":14.33,"text":"I'll leave at 7 o'clock."},{"start":25.28,"end":27.19,"text":"I'll leave at 7 o'clock."},{"start":27.98,"end":51.56,"text":"Well, not this morning."},{"start":51.58,"end":52.14,"text":"Yeah, we just talked to him."},{"start":52.16,"end":52.84,"text":"He was doing so-and-so down there."},{"start":52.86,"end":53.54,"text":"He was doing so-and-so down there."},{"start":53.56,"end":54.24,"text":"He was doing so-and-so down there."},{"start":54.26,"end":54.94,"text":"He was doing so-and-so down there."},{"start":54.96,"end":55.65,"text":"He was doing so-and-so down there."},{"start":55.66,"end":56.35,"text":"He was doing so-and-so down there."},{"start":56.37,"end":57.05,"text":"He was doing so-and-so down there."},{"start":57.07,"end":57.75,"text":"He was doing so-and-so down there."},{"start":58.72,"end":88.11,"text":"and that we"},{"start":89.99,"end":115.81,"text":"I'm basically more pessimistic because I know how..."},{"start":116.5,"end":135.69,"text":"He wants to believe what he wants to believe."},{"start":135.71,"end":138.49,"text":"The reason for his life, I don't know."},{"start":138.51,"end":139.45,"text":"It's just not the right thing that will happen."},{"start":139.47,"end":139.73,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":139.75,"end":140.07,"text":"I have this one."},{"start":140.09,"end":140.56,"text":"It's a hell of a story."},{"start":140.58,"end":141.66,"text":"And a lot of people think they're all of us intruders."},{"start":141.68,"end":142.36,"text":"I think we need to do it together."},{"start":142.98,"end":152.41,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. R. Haldeman met at Camp David to coordinate their departure schedules and discuss concerns regarding an unnamed individual’s overly optimistic perception of current events. Nixon expressed skepticism toward this individual's outlook, noting a tendency to ignore harsh realities. The two agreed on the necessity of collaborating to manage the narrative surrounding an unspecified \"hell of a story\" involving potential intruders.","topics":["Logistics","Political strategy","Public relations","Personnel management"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:48:47.778Z"},"topicSlugs":["logistics","political-strategy","public-relations","personnel-management"],"audioDurationSec":165,"audioFiles":[{"file":"223-018.mp3","bytes":3972283,"durationSec":165.44,"bitrate":192083,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.205Z","transcriptGapSeconds":98,"transcriptGapShare":0.59,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/223-018.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/223-018","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/223/conversation-223-018","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}