{"conversationCode":"224-002","tapeNumber":224,"conversationNumber":2,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-224-002","startDateTime":"1972-11-13T20:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-13T22:01:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Nov-1972","startTime":"3:55 PM","endDate":"13-Nov-1972","endTime":"5:01 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Brennan, John V.;","description":"On November 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and John V. Brennan met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 3:55 pm and 5:01 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 224-002 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 224-2\n\f                                             -9-\n\n                   NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\nDate: November 13, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 3:55 pm and 5:01 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with John V. (“Jack”) Brennan.\n\n        The President's schedule\n             -Meeting with Charles W. Colson\n\nBrennan left at an unknown time before 5:01 pm.","filename":["224-002.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Brennan, John V."],"prevCode":"224-001","nextCode":"224-003","transcript":[{"start":0.54,"end":10.88,"text":"Is this where I see Coltsville before, Dan?"},{"start":10.9,"end":11.56,"text":"Uh, it's what you're calling now."},{"start":11.58,"end":12.04,"text":"As soon as they finish."},{"start":12.06,"end":12.98,"text":"I don't know how you pair a party now, do you?"},{"start":13.01,"end":13.09,"text":"Huh?"},{"start":13.11,"end":13.69,"text":"Yeah, that's what my name is."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon met with John V. Brennan at Camp David to coordinate upcoming scheduling logistics. The discussion focused on arrangements for an impending meeting between the President and Charles W. Colson. No major policy decisions were reached, as the exchange remained limited to administrative and logistical coordination.","topics":["Presidential scheduling","Charles W. Colson","White House logistics","Camp David"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:49:16.055Z"},"topicSlugs":["presidential-scheduling","charles-w-colson","white-house-logistics","camp-david"],"audioDurationSec":19,"audioFiles":[{"file":"224-002.mp3","bytes":457287,"durationSec":18.93,"bitrate":193219,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.204Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:06.808Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/224-002.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/224-002","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/224/conversation-224-002","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}