{"conversationCode":"224-004","tapeNumber":224,"conversationNumber":4,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-224-004","startDateTime":"1972-11-13T22:07:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1972-11-14T00:40:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Nov-1972","startTime":"5:07 PM","endDate":"13-Nov-1972","endTime":"7:40 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Sanchez, Manolo;","description":"On November 13, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Aspen Lodge study at Camp David at an unknown time between 5:07 pm and 7:40 pm. The Camp David Hard Wire taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 224-004 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"CDHW","recordingDevice":"Camp David Hard Wire","latitudeEstimated":39.648333,"longitudeEstimated":-77.465,"chronCode":"5.2","chronRelease":"Fifth Chronological Release: Part II","chronReleaseDate":"2-Dec-2008","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 224-4\n\nDate: November 13, 1972\nTime: Unknown between 5:07 pm and 7:40 pm\nLocation: Camp David Hard Wire\n\nThe President met with Manolo Sanchez.\n\f                                            -10-\n\n                  NIXON PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY AND MUSEUM\n\n*****************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift during\nchronological review 2007-2013]\n\n        Fire\n\n*****************************************************************\n\nSanchez left at an unknown time before 7:40 pm.","filename":["224-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"","tapeEnd":"","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Sanchez, Manolo"],"prevCode":"224-003","nextCode":"224-005","transcript":[{"start":0.18,"end":6.84,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":7.48,"end":10.42,"text":"But this is good for the children who need to roll."},{"start":10.62,"end":12.37,"text":"Before they stay at the evening school."},{"start":12.39,"end":14.07,"text":"So they can't use the first row."},{"start":14.17,"end":14.73,"text":"Yeah, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with his personal valet, Manolo Sanchez, at Camp David regarding logistical arrangements for local school children. The discussion focused on practical considerations for students attending evening programs and the availability of seating or facilities. This brief interaction highlights the President’s routine oversight of minor personal and administrative matters during his stay at the presidential retreat.","topics":["Manolo Sanchez","Camp David","Education","Logistics","Presidential routine"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-06T10:49:27.725Z"},"topicSlugs":["manolo-sanchez","camp-david","education","logistics","presidential-routine"],"audioDurationSec":20,"audioFiles":[{"file":"224-004.mp3","bytes":471705,"durationSec":19.53,"bitrate":193189,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:36.204Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:43:06.808Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/224-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/224-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/224/conversation-224-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}